Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#81  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 1:51 pm

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Keep It Real wrote:The view that either:

a) Muslims don't overwhelmingly have a massive problem with dogs or
b) They do but it's a non-issue

I don't really think he's a Muslim, just an apologist for Islam.


In what way is he an apologist for Islam rather than someone who doesn't accept a claim made with not much by way of evidence?


Which claim is he not accepting, by your mind, which requires evidence currently absent and on which the thrust of this thread hinges?
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#82  Postby LucidFlight » Mar 18, 2019 1:53 pm

Fallible wrote:They don't allow smoking, drinking or eating in them either. It's a hygiene issue, KIR. It's a messy business. Imagine possibly multiple dogs a week in the back of your car. Imagine the hairs and mud and slobber on the windows.

This is why I would not allow small children in my taxi.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#83  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 2:07 pm

:lol: £15 profit or having to wipe off a smidgen of slobber once in a blue moon....dunno that's a toughy....yeah, let 'em walk. At night. And I hope it's a long way too. Yukky children :yuk:
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#84  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 2:18 pm

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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#85  Postby GrahamH » Mar 18, 2019 2:43 pm

Fallible wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:The view that either:

a) Muslims don't overwhelmingly have a massive problem with dogs or
b) They do but it's a non-issue

I don't really think he's a Muslim, just an apologist for Islam.


In what way is he an apologist for Islam rather than someone who doesn't accept a claim made with not much by way of evidence?


Thanks you for that oasis of sanity.
And further, I pointed to a potential source of such evidence that might be relevant (records of prosecutions for refusal to carry service dogs), which of course KIR just ignored.


I never said Muslims don't "have a massive problem with dogs" simply that KIRs train anecdote was not evidence of it.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#86  Postby GrahamH » Mar 18, 2019 2:50 pm

Thommo wrote:I've never been bitten by a cat. I think cats just have the good sense to bite the bad people.


I think you have a point. I've not been bitten by a cat but I have been bitten by a dog.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#87  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 2:53 pm

GrahamH wrote:
Fallible wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:The view that either:

a) Muslims don't overwhelmingly have a massive problem with dogs or
b) They do but it's a non-issue

I don't really think he's a Muslim, just an apologist for Islam.


In what way is he an apologist for Islam rather than someone who doesn't accept a claim made with not much by way of evidence?


Thanks you for that oasis of sanity.
And further, I pointed to a potential source of such evidence that might be relevant (records of prosecutions for refusal to carry service dogs), which of course KIR just ignored.


I never said Muslims don't "have a massive problem with dogs" simply that KIRs train anecdote was not evidence of it.


Oh yeah "of course" I'd already posted multiple reports of Muslims refusing guide dogs on religious grounds - if you feel you're able to provide helpful further data then DO SOMETHING FUCKING USEFUL IN THIS THREAD FOR ONCE AND POST IT!
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#88  Postby Svartalf » Mar 18, 2019 2:57 pm

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Thommo wrote:I've never been bitten by a cat. I think cats just have the good sense to bite the bad people.


I think you have a point. I've not been bitten by a cat but I have been bitten by a dog.

Cats are vicious, they'll cuddle to you, and when you start petting them ,they'll scratch or even bite you... dogs, it all depends on the dog and whether it likes you.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#89  Postby Fallible » Mar 18, 2019 3:00 pm

It depends on the dog and whether it's been socialised, trained and well treated.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#90  Postby GrahamH » Mar 18, 2019 3:08 pm

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Oh yeah "of course" I'd already posted multiple reports anecdotes of Muslims refusing guide dogs on religious grounds


If you've got some solid statistics post them and post a sound argument for why you are so worked up about about people being scared of dogs (or whatever phobia). Will you suggest a remedy perhaps? How about Mutts4Muslims bringing cute puppies for Muslim kids to pet, through to dog handling classes and owners clubs. Would that make you feel better?
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#91  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 3:20 pm

It's not me who needs to feel better.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#92  Postby GrahamH » Mar 18, 2019 3:29 pm

Keep It Real wrote:It's not me who needs to feel better Hans.


You're the one so upset about it you started a discussion on the Internet about it in which you started swearing at people.

So, it's just pointless ranting at Others then?
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#93  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 3:35 pm

Oh noes, did I use a swear word?! :doh:

Basically GrahamH, I glean that you were once bitten by a dog...Severely? I don't know, and so you fear dogs. Muslims fear/despise/whatever dogs because of elements in the culture derived from the koran, hadith and rabies. You shouldn't align yourself with their irrational vilification of dogs as yours, by contrast is rational, to a degree, although I hope you one day overcome your phobia, once you recognise it for what it is. You are a rarity in this; Muslim vilification of dogs is blanket.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#94  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 3:39 pm

Also, one does not need to be "incredibly worked up" to start a thread here, and I only started loosing my cool when you started posting disparagingly.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#95  Postby GrahamH » Mar 18, 2019 3:43 pm

Keep It Real wrote:...and so you fear dogs.


No, I don't fear dogs.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#96  Postby GrahamH » Mar 18, 2019 3:44 pm

Keep It Real wrote:Also, one does not need to be "incredibly worked up" to start a thread here, and I only started loosing my cool when you started posting disparagingly.


Can't take criticism huh?
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#97  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 3:47 pm

Oh dear...you know what really pisses me off? People who are too boring/cowardly/ignorant to load an avatar. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :coffee:
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#98  Postby Svartalf » Mar 18, 2019 3:48 pm

Well, I don't like dogs, was bitten a couple times, and i'm allergic to them to boot, same with cats actually.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#99  Postby romansh » Mar 18, 2019 3:51 pm

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No, I didn't. Dogs see delivery peeps as intruders, and they think they're doing their job by repelling you.

My point was there was no warning. I understand the dynamic.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#100  Postby romansh » Mar 18, 2019 3:53 pm

GrahamH wrote:
Thommo wrote:I've never been bitten by a cat. I think cats just have the good sense to bite the bad people.


I think you have a point. I've not been bitten by a cat but I have been bitten by a dog.

My cat bites me regularly … but it's more of a love nip.
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