Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#61  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 11:39 am

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Fallible wrote:They don't allow smoking, drinking or eating in them either. It's a hygiene issue, KIR. It's a messy business. Imagine possibly multiple dogs a week in the back of your car. Imagine the hairs and mud and slobber on the windows.

Nah. It’s the muslims. Gotta be.


Nah, it couldn't possibly be the Muslims.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#62  Postby Scot Dutchy » Mar 18, 2019 11:46 am

Well forget dogs here. Taxis are very careful here. We dont have black cabs just posh Mercs.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#63  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 11:51 am

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Keep It Real wrote:I guess she'd never had that problem before at a train station wit 20+ taxis. What a fucking moron :dunno:


What a well thought out rational reply. When you have no point to make just swear at people. They will respect you for that. :nono:


I was sarcastically echoing your sentiment that my sister's a fucking moron (for not booking ahead) and TBH gaining your respect is not a high priority for me currently.

So it was an assumption based on a sample of one station where she has been lucky so far?...Are we to believe that overnight all 20 dog-loving non-Muslim taxi drivers were replaced by Muslim dog-haters?


A problem she'd never had before at any station AFAIK, she'd never visited this one with Bluey before IIRC....nor perhaps any station with two enormous mosques within 500m.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#64  Postby GrahamH » Mar 18, 2019 11:55 am

Keep It Real wrote:
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Fallible wrote:They don't allow smoking, drinking or eating in them either. It's a hygiene issue, KIR. It's a messy business. Imagine possibly multiple dogs a week in the back of your car. Imagine the hairs and mud and slobber on the windows.

Nah. It’s the muslims. Gotta be.


Nah, it couldn't possibly be the Muslims.


Whatever people's religion or ethnicity they can recognise that dogs shed hair, can have muddy paws and coat, slobber and have claws that can damage upholstery.


If your sis books ahead and takes a blanket for a fairly clean Bluebell to sit on she'll probably be fine.


I was sarcastically echoing your sentiment that my sister's a fucking moron (for not booking ahead)


Are you saying she did book ahead for the dog? If so your story left all sorts of relevant info out. Why did you do that?

Then again maybe she prefers to be unreasonable and just blame it on the Muslims.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#65  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Mar 18, 2019 12:01 pm

Imagine growing up not percieving dogs as pets and then having someone insist one ride in the car with you.

I wouldn't respond particularly well to someone suggesting their goat ride in my car. They stink and shed and are potentially dangerous. I'm not sure a goat is any worse than a dog in any of those respects though. I'm just accustomed to seeing dogs as house pets.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#66  Postby Fallible » Mar 18, 2019 12:08 pm

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Fallible wrote:They don't allow smoking, drinking or eating in them either. It's a hygiene issue, KIR. It's a messy business. Imagine possibly multiple dogs a week in the back of your car. Imagine the hairs and mud and slobber on the windows.


Let's leave the "stranded at the station" anecdote then; it's just a drop in the ocean anyway. There is truth to the fact many/most Muslim taxi-drivers don't allow dogs however still due to their religion. Some even go so far as to refuse to take guide dogs - which is illegal eg: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4157454/Taxi-driver-refused-pick-blind-dog.html

This website has dozens of other examples.


The guide dog thing is not acceptable, but if people don't take dogs for hygiene reasons while others don't take them due to their religion, the upshot is still the same. Why aren't you complaining that taxi drivers are germophobes as well?
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#67  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 12:45 pm

Because that's a minuscule problem compared to the elephant in the room (ie. Islam and dogs). Most taxi drivers clean up vomit from drunken yoots at least once a week, I have been told. But hoovering up a few dog hairs! Oh noes!
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#68  Postby Fallible » Mar 18, 2019 12:51 pm

If most taxis don't accept dogs due to hygiene problems, how is that minuscule? As you know, I'm in the Liverpool area. Do you know how many taxi drivers there are here? Many, many. Do you know how many Muslim taxi drivers there are here? Not many. In fact after living here for 18 years, I haven't had a Muslim taxi driver yet, as far as I know. I mean I don't question them on their religion, but those ethnicities which have a higher preponderance of adherents to the Muslim faith have by and large not chosen to settle themselves in the Liverpool region in large numbers. So it would really have no impact on me whatsoever that Muslim taxi drivers don't take dogs due to their religion, but it would have a big impact on me if taxi drivers don't take dogs for other reasons. I couldn't tell you how often they clean up sick, but I know taxi drivers who don't work at kicking-out time to avoid such happenings. They can do that. They can't choose whether people with dogs are going to turn up on any given day.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#69  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 12:58 pm

I haven't been able to find statistics on dog friendly taxi drivers let alone ethnic breakdown within that. Maybe 97% of Muslim taxi drivers don't take dogs except guide dogs ('cos that's the law) and, what, 30% of non-Muslim taxi drivers won't take a clean, dry dog? Sound about right to you?
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#70  Postby felltoearth » Mar 18, 2019 1:07 pm

Keep It Real wrote:Because that's a minuscule problem compared to the elephant in the room (ie. Islam and dogs). Most taxi drivers clean up vomit from drunken yoots at least once a week, I have been told. But hoovering up a few dog hairs! Oh noes!

The elephant in the room is that you keep asserting something is a problem because of someone else. No one is obligated to transport anything other than humans and support animals in a taxi, or even public transport for that matter.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#71  Postby Fallible » Mar 18, 2019 1:10 pm

Keep It Real wrote:I haven't been able to find statistics on dog friendly taxi drivers let alone ethnic breakdown within that. Maybe 97% of Muslim taxi drivers don't take dogs except guide dogs ('cos that's the law) and, what, 30% of non-Muslim taxi drivers won't take a clean, dry dog? Sound about right to you?


I have no idea, and neither do you. What I do know is that non-acceptance of dogs is not a Muslim only issue.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#72  Postby GrahamH » Mar 18, 2019 1:17 pm

Keep It Real wrote:I haven't been able to find statistics on dog friendly taxi drivers let alone ethnic breakdown within that. Maybe 97% of Muslim taxi drivers don't take dogs except guide dogs ('cos that's the law) and, what, 30% of non-Muslim taxi drivers won't take a clean, dry dog? Sound about right to you?


Sounds like numbers pulled out of your arse to me.

The story here is possibly a disproportionate number of refusals to carry service dogs. That is much less of a hygene issue because of the low numbers so expect a religious bias to show up in public records prosecutions for that.


Taxis refusing to carry pet dogs for whatever reason is not a scandal. There are other modes of transport. There are other taxis, you can make arrangements ahead of time to not get caught out.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#73  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 1:28 pm

Today's Jihad is completed for you GrahamH, you can go and say your prayers now.
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#74  Postby felltoearth » Mar 18, 2019 1:30 pm

Oh do fuck off with that post KIR. It’s clear at this point you have nothing.
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#75  Postby Fallible » Mar 18, 2019 1:34 pm

Keep It Real wrote:Today's Jihad is completed for you GrahamH, you can go and say your prayers now.


Are you saying that Graham is a Muslim because he is posing an alternative view?
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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#76  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 18, 2019 1:36 pm

The view that either:

a) Muslims don't overwhelmingly have a massive problem with dogs or
b) They do but it's a non-issue

I don't really think he's a Muslim, just an apologist for Islam.
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#77  Postby LucidFlight » Mar 18, 2019 1:38 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Well forget dogs here. Taxis are very careful here. We dont have black cabs just posh Mercs.

You are lucky. In my country, we can only afford second-hand Škoda, which in Slovak means pity, shame, or waste.
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#78  Postby newolder » Mar 18, 2019 1:41 pm

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Fallible wrote:What were you doing to the ferret?


Trying to make friends. No trousers were involved.

You removed your trousers in order to befriend a ferret? Do go on... :popcorn:

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Re: Muslim's attitudes toward dogs.

#79  Postby Fallible » Mar 18, 2019 1:47 pm

Keep It Real wrote:The view that either:

a) Muslims don't overwhelmingly have a massive problem with dogs or
b) They do but it's a non-issue

I don't really think he's a Muslim, just an apologist for Islam.


In what way is he an apologist for Islam rather than someone who doesn't accept a claim made with not much by way of evidence?
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#80  Postby Fallible » Mar 18, 2019 1:50 pm

LucidFlight wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Well forget dogs here. Taxis are very careful here. We dont have black cabs just posh Mercs.

You are lucky. In my country, we can only afford second-hand Škoda, which in Slovak means pity, shame, or waste.


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