The good bits of Islam from atheists' perspectives

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The good bits of Islam from atheists' perspectives

#1  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 2:32 am

Abhorrence of infidelity...and...um....can't really think of anything else....soz.
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Re: The good bits of Islam from atheists' perspectives

#2  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 2:51 am

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Never was a big fan of capitalism...hmmmmm tenuous attribution of motive but still.
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#3  Postby Thommo » Mar 05, 2018 2:52 am

It has most of the same mores as Christianity, and indeed most cultures. Disapproval of murder and theft, preference for law and order, respect of ones elders, the golden rule and all that jazz.

Arguably the prohibition on alcohol and the rules on lending are good.
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#4  Postby Thommo » Mar 05, 2018 2:52 am

Keep It Real wrote:Image

Never was a big fan of capitalism...hmmmmm tenuous attribution of motive but still.


Ok, I see from my cross post that we're scraping the barrel like that, and I'm already regretting that I involved myself in the thread. Ciao.
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#5  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 2:55 am

Thommo wrote:It has most of the same mores as Christianity, and indeed most cultures. Disapproval of murder and theft, preference for law and order, respect of ones elders, the golden rule and all that jazz.

Arguably the prohibition on alcohol and the rules on lending are good.


Yeah that's the thing Thommo - the obvious good bits are already covered in the other thread.
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#6  Postby Thommo » Mar 05, 2018 3:50 am

That's a bit oblique. If there's some other thread I should know about, perhaps you could say which one it is. Right now I have no memory of participating in any thread about the good bits of Islam.

If there is already such a thread, why start a new one?
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#7  Postby laklak » Mar 05, 2018 4:50 am

The fact that they keep killing each other.
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#8  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 9:04 am

Keep It Real wrote:Image

Never was a big fan of capitalism...hmmmmm tenuous attribution of motive but still.


OK so this comment might seem cold/crass/distasteful but the 4000 9/11 casualties need to be viewed in the context of the 100,000s of Iraq casualties; and saying one agrees with the Iraq war is not controversial....also I did say tenuous attribution of motive, but wish to retract the words "but still" and replace them with the word "however."
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#9  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 9:06 am

Thommo wrote:That's a bit oblique. If there's some other thread I should know about, perhaps you could say which one it is. Right now I have no memory of participating in any thread about the good bits of Islam.

If there is already such a thread, why start a new one?


http://www.rationalskepticism.org/christianity/the-good-bits-of-christianity-from-atheists-perspectives-t54954.html
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#10  Postby Blackadder » Mar 05, 2018 12:25 pm

From my personal experience I can say that there is virtually no good bit. The “abhorrence of infidelity” is also rather one sided, given that a Muslim man may take 4 wives but a Muslim woman cannot have more than one husband.

The only thing I could suggest as a good bit would be the strong sense of community and the charity tax levied on wealth that goes specifically to help the poor.
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#11  Postby aban57 » Mar 05, 2018 12:37 pm

Blackadder wrote:
The only thing I could suggest as a good bit would be the strong sense of community


That's a double edge sword. It's indeed a good thing, until muslims gather in a country with a different culture, and then they start enforcing their culture to the rest of the community.
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#12  Postby Blackadder » Mar 05, 2018 12:40 pm

aban57 wrote:
Blackadder wrote:
The only thing I could suggest as a good bit would be the strong sense of community


That's a double edge sword. It's indeed a good thing, until muslims gather in a country with a different culture, and then they start enforcing their culture to the rest of the community.


Indeed. I was made very aware of the flip side of the coin, when people who were not my friends or family felt entitled to comment on my behaviour as “unIslamic”. “Community” can also be a euphemism for “control”. I accept that.
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#13  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Mar 05, 2018 12:50 pm

Some of the hygienical jurisprudence in Islam makes a lot of sense.
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#14  Postby Matthew Shute » Mar 05, 2018 1:06 pm

Keep It Real wrote:
Keep It Real wrote:Image

Never was a big fan of capitalism...hmmmmm tenuous attribution of motive but still.


OK so this comment might seem cold/crass/distasteful


You don't say. :roll:

but the 4000 9/11 casualties need to be viewed in the context of the 100,000s of Iraq casualties;


In what way does a deliberate act of mass murder "need to be viewed in the context of" casualties that the murder victims had no hand in (many doubtless opposed Iraq policy, even, before they were incinerated)?
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Re: The good bits of Islam from atheists' perspectives

#15  Postby aban57 » Mar 05, 2018 1:30 pm

Killing kids because they might become unfaithfull makes a lot of sense too. Let's kill the entire human race to make sure none of us eventually destroys our planet.
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#16  Postby LucidFlight » Mar 05, 2018 1:41 pm

This nasheed is pretty nice.

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#17  Postby Corneel » Mar 05, 2018 1:44 pm

A healthier approach to wealth and poverty than Christianity.
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#18  Postby Scot Dutchy » Mar 05, 2018 2:38 pm

Which islam are you looking at? Like xtianity there are as many versions.
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#19  Postby Corneel » Mar 05, 2018 4:35 pm

Well all of Islam, since part of it is one of their basic tenets (one of the five pillars), i.e. if you're wealthy you pay your due by giving to the poor.
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#20  Postby NineBerry » Mar 05, 2018 5:30 pm

Ban of Alcohol
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