I thought that one day I would like to visit East Ham (Newham - stupid name!) one day (my birth-place) but it seems I could be out of place with the locals. Is Mudies 'Pie & Eel Shop' still there?

Oeditor wrote:

Paul G wrote:The rise in homophobia is not because of a rise in Islam, by this I mean Islam as an ideology spreading, but simply due to a massive amount of muslims in the area.

Is that more homophobic Muslims moving into the area, or existing Muslim residents becoming more homophobic? Or just an increase in the Muslim population, with a proportional increase of homophobic Muslims?

Difficult question But of course not so important. What counts is that the irrational taboos of islam and the fact that muslims take islam too seriously* are directly responsible for the undeniable evidence regarding muslim homophobia (0%...muslims in Britain thought that homosexuality was morally acceptable; according to a Gallup research if I am not wrong). And this is only one of the many irrational muslim taboos.

More generally given the fact that this religion has a perverse dual nature (both the abrogated and unabrogated verses are true at the same time because the qur'an is the word of allah) we should expect a rise in intolerance (if ever muslims gain some power) to the extent that they will openly preach the Medinan islam in the West (without any contradiction in their view, aren't the tolerant Meccan verses abrogated, less true?; when islam is weak one has to preach the abrogated, nonetheless true, Meccan islam, when it is strong the real islam, like muhammad).

Only if one is totally ignorant of islam could he/she buy the myth with the alleged 'tolerance' of islam; in fact the Medinan islam is the natural interpretation, the real islam. Sadly at this moment in time there is no good reason to think that the Meccan islam will forever be (at least at the declarative/behavioural level) the norm among muslims in the West.


*of course the total lack of freedom in islam plays its part, islam is not an individual religion (but if the 'moderates', in the western acceptance, were really a majority one would expect a very different result)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61WjEd0y ... ideo_title - only by steadily exposing muslims to criticism is there a chance to make them realize that violence and a politics of fear do not work

Don't know that one but there are several eel and pie shops around.

It seems as though the burka ban in France has irritated the homophobic misogynistic East London Islamics further. Not a good idea as the area incorporates the Olympic Stadium and historically there has been a terrorist attack at every modern Olympic games.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... a-law.html

And avoid “putting doubt in people’s minds” about Islam in East London:

"Gary Smith has been left with permanent scarring after being cut from his ear to his mouth and also suffered a fractured skull, bleeding in the brain and a broken jaw after being pounced on by the gang in Burdett Road, Mile End last year.
Armed with a knife, a brick and a metal rod, Akmol Hussain, 26, Azad Hussein, 26, Simon Alam, 19, and Sheikh Mohammed Meraj Rashid, 27 repeatedly kicked and hit Mr Smith, who taught at Central Foundation Girls’ School in Bow.
Akmol Hussain had pre-planned the attack with the others because the teacher was “mocking Islam” and “putting doubt in people’s minds”, Snaresbrook Crown Court heard in evidence."
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/n ... s_1_905527

Be careful if you are going to the Olympic Games in East London next year.