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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#41  Postby Fallible » Feb 27, 2019 3:31 pm

Wow! Thanks! I’ll have a proper read of that later.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#42  Postby LucidFlight » Feb 27, 2019 3:55 pm

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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#43  Postby don't get me started » Feb 28, 2019 1:47 am

Fallible wrote:Wow! Thanks! I’ll have a proper read of that later.


On re-reading it, I felt it came over as a bit arrogant and preachy. Apologies for that. I do tend to play the pedagogue a bit when it comes to language.... :oops:

Actually, it is one of the things that annoys me about certain teachers that I meet. Because they have a captive audience in their classrooms (especially in a Japanese context where the Sensei is an unquestioned font of wisdom), they think that the turn taking and turn allocation rules that apply in their classrooms get transferred to the world outside the classroom....and that they have something important to say on every topic....poor social skills are the result. :hand:

I sometimes catch myself doing this and try to nip it in the bud. :naughty:
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#44  Postby Ironclad » Feb 28, 2019 3:54 am

Looked perfectly fine to me, and very interesting too. :)
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#45  Postby Fallible » Feb 28, 2019 8:21 am

don't get me started wrote:
Fallible wrote:Wow! Thanks! I’ll have a proper read of that later.


On re-reading it, I felt it came over as a bit arrogant and preachy. Apologies for that. I do tend to play the pedagogue a bit when it comes to language.... :oops:

Actually, it is one of the things that annoys me about certain teachers that I meet. Because they have a captive audience in their classrooms (especially in a Japanese context where the Sensei is an unquestioned font of wisdom), they think that the turn taking and turn allocation rules that apply in their classrooms get transferred to the world outside the classroom....and that they have something important to say on every topic....poor social skills are the result. :hand:

I sometimes catch myself doing this and try to nip it in the bud. :naughty:


Don't worry, I didn't notice any such tone in your post. You are full of informative stuffs. :teef:
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#46  Postby don't get me started » Feb 28, 2019 12:12 pm

Thanks Ironclad and Fallible... I'm glad that you found the content worthwhile.

Rest assured that down the pub on a Friday with my mates and cronies I'm sweary bullshiter and piss-taker, not a finger wagging know-all :drunk:

Back on topic..(kind of)...

A friend who was teaching in the secondary school system in the UK was marking the history projects of his students.
One student may have been deficient in his knowledge of English spelling conventions but was unwittingly insightful about historical realities when he/she wrote.

"The inside of Anglo-Saxon houses were dark and smoky, and there was rough mating on the floor." ;)
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#47  Postby The_Piper » Feb 28, 2019 1:01 pm

I dunno, that all went over my head. Does it mean that "wouldn't a pizza be great?" should mean what I mean it to mean, that a pizza would be great?
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#48  Postby Evolving » Feb 28, 2019 1:07 pm

Wouldn't you like to know?
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#49  Postby zulumoose » Feb 28, 2019 1:10 pm

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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#50  Postby Evolving » Feb 28, 2019 1:48 pm

Ah, Groot. He is so sweet.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#51  Postby don't get me started » Feb 28, 2019 2:40 pm

The_Piper wrote:I dunno, that all went over my head. Does it mean that "wouldn't a pizza be great?" should mean what I mean it to mean, that a pizza would be great?


You are right on the button there... 'Wouldn't pizza be great?' definitely indicates that the speaker has a preference for pizza. But, the use of the modal verb 'would' places the utterance as a tentative suggestion, and it indicates to the recipient that they (the recipient) has agency in the decision about what to eat, and the case is far from closed. It is all about recipient design and avoiding a face threatening act (FTA), that is, imposing on the other and denying them agency.

Consider the common way that children express themselves... (I want, I want, I want) There is no recipient design there and the child is not concerned with the preferences of other persons.

The negative polarity of this statement is different to the negative polarity of the 'Isn't it raining?' examples I gave up-thread. In those cases, a truth condition was the focus... raining now? Yes or No?
In the case of 'Wouldn't Pizza be great' , negative polarity with a modal verb placed in the 'past tense' form (will---would) is a well recognized formula for offering a suggestion that projects alignment and agreement in the subsequent turn.

A: 'Wouldn't pizza be great?'
B: 'Yeah, lets get pepperoni.'
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#52  Postby Hermit » Feb 28, 2019 5:08 pm

No! Pineapple and ham. :hungry:

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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#53  Postby aban57 » Feb 28, 2019 5:13 pm

Hermit wrote:No! Pineapple and ham. :hungry:

:door:


Together ???? You're a monster :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#54  Postby Hermit » Feb 28, 2019 5:20 pm

aban57 wrote:
Hermit wrote:No! Pineapple and ham. :hungry:

:door:

Together ???? You're a monster :shock: :shock: :shock:

I knew some pizza nazi would think that. I made sure to have a nearby door for a quick enough exit handy for that reason.

Ham and pineapple is among my top ten pizza combinations, #1 being Napolitana. With garlic, of course. And anchovy. Do I need to prepare for another quick getaway?
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#55  Postby The_Piper » Feb 28, 2019 6:17 pm

I like-ah cheese-ah pizza. No-ah pepperoni. Pineapple e sacrileg-eh!! :teef: :shifty:
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#56  Postby The_Piper » Feb 28, 2019 6:19 pm

don't get me started wrote:
The_Piper wrote:I dunno, that all went over my head. Does it mean that "wouldn't a pizza be great?" should mean what I mean it to mean, that a pizza would be great?


You are right on the button there... 'Wouldn't pizza be great?' definitely indicates that the speaker has a preference for pizza. But, the use of the modal verb 'would' places the utterance as a tentative suggestion, and it indicates to the recipient that they (the recipient) has agency in the decision about what to eat, and the case is far from closed. It is all about recipient design and avoiding a face threatening act (FTA), that is, imposing on the other and denying them agency.

Consider the common way that children express themselves... (I want, I want, I want) There is no recipient design there and the child is not concerned with the preferences of other persons.

The negative polarity of this statement is different to the negative polarity of the 'Isn't it raining?' examples I gave up-thread. In those cases, a truth condition was the focus... raining now? Yes or No?
In the case of 'Wouldn't Pizza be great' , negative polarity with a modal verb placed in the 'past tense' form (will---would) is a well recognized formula for offering a suggestion that projects alignment and agreement in the subsequent turn.

A: 'Wouldn't pizza be great?'
B: 'Yeah, lets get pepperoni.'

I knew I was right. :snooty: My friend was probably trying to get back at me for chuckling at the way she says mirror (meer :nono: ). :lol:
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#57  Postby romansh » Feb 28, 2019 6:28 pm

Ironclad wrote:Looked perfectly fine to me, and very interesting too. :)

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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#58  Postby Hermit » Feb 28, 2019 8:22 pm

The_Piper wrote:I like-ah cheese-ah pizza. No-ah pepperoni. Pineapple e sacrileg-eh!! :teef: :shifty:

Pineapple on pizza is the best ever Canadian invention. If there were such a thing as the Nobel prize for culinary achievements, Sam Panopoulos would have been a shoo-in for it. Alas, the genius behind this utterly delicious creation died on the 8th of June 2017, so he will never receive his just deserts now. Ontario ought to build a statue in his honour to make up for it.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#59  Postby The_Piper » Feb 28, 2019 8:29 pm

Hermit wrote:
The_Piper wrote:I like-ah cheese-ah pizza. No-ah pepperoni. Pineapple e sacrileg-eh!! :teef: :shifty:

Pineapple on pizza is the best ever Canadian invention. If there were such a thing as the Nobel prize for culinary achievements, Sam Panopoulos would have been a shoo-in for it. Alas, the genius behind this utterly delicious creation died on the 8th of June 2017, so he will never receive his just deserts now. Ontario ought to build a statue in his honour to make up for it.

Canada is the culprit, eh? That makes sense. :lay: :lol: :lol:
It's popular up here where there are few Italian-Americans. That's fine. What isn't fine is the scarcity of plain cheese pizza. Most of the (scant few) places who sell by the slice don't sell cheese slices. There's a frozen brand that I used to buy (mama rosa) but they only stock the pepperoni flavor at local grocery stores. I like pepperoni, but on pizza it doesn't make it taste better, I'd rather keep them separate.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#60  Postby aban57 » Feb 28, 2019 8:47 pm

Hermit wrote:
aban57 wrote:
Hermit wrote:No! Pineapple and ham. :hungry:

:door:

Together ???? You're a monster :shock: :shock: :shock:

I knew some pizza nazi would think that. I made sure to have a nearby door for a quick enough exit handy for that reason.

Ham and pineapple is among my top ten pizza combinations, #1 being Napolitana. With garlic, of course. And anchovy. Do I need to prepare for another quick getaway?

Oh no, I love anchovy. Where I grew up, we put them in our salads :)
I don't mind pineapple on pizzas, although I never tried personally. It's the mix with ham that bothers me.
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