Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#241  Postby felltoearth » Apr 25, 2019 4:46 pm

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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#242  Postby romansh » Apr 26, 2019 2:07 am

Hermit wrote:"The media/phenomena/data is..." without it sticking in my craw.

I am ambidextrous when it comes to media and data is/are debate. But phenomena are are … I'm sorry if I am wearing a captain's sailor cap here.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#243  Postby Fallible » Apr 26, 2019 5:47 am

People often use 'phenomena' as the singular form. It's like they don't know 'phenomenon' even exists. They want to acquaint themselves with the back catalogue of L.L. Cool J.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#244  Postby don't get me started » Apr 26, 2019 11:54 pm

The whole plural/singular thing should logically be an either/or distinction, but, as with many other aspects of human cognition and categorization, it is not quite so straightforward.

There are nouns than can be either plural or singular ....dog/dogs, house/houses, etc.
Then there are are nouns that only show whether they are plural or singular in the accompanying verb....the sheep/fish/deer is/are.
Then there are nouns (so called plurale tantum) that only have a plural form ...scissors, trousers, police, glasses, clothes etc.
Some nouns can be either singular or plural, depending on the context ...the committee/government/family is/are.

Then we have outliers like cow/cows/cattle where there are two versions of the plural form with slightly different meanings.

And don't get me started on the madness which is the mass/count distinction...

Much as the grammarians of a certain stripe (usually self-appointed 'experts') would like things to be nice and tidy in language, it just doesn't work that way.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#245  Postby The_Piper » Apr 27, 2019 12:31 am

Correctus. :teef:
My father used to say "get me a scissor". I thought it might be because his parents spoke Italian. Google say that word is forbici, which is plural for forbice. I wonder what they use in practice. Probably both. :mrgreen:
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#246  Postby romansh » Apr 27, 2019 11:23 pm

I have a rip in my trouser leg?
I also get ribbed in Canada for … a pair of trousers and a pair of ladders.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#247  Postby Macdoc » Apr 27, 2019 11:57 pm

You all should watch this movie - crazy true story about the creation of the Oxford Dictionary

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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#248  Postby don't get me started » Apr 28, 2019 12:16 am

Macdoc wrote:You all should watch this movie - crazy true story about the creation of the Oxford Dictionary



Thanks for the recommendation Macdoc. looks interesting.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#249  Postby Macdoc » Apr 28, 2019 12:31 am

I've got the book too to read on the way home across the Pacific.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#250  Postby don't get me started » Apr 28, 2019 12:37 am

romansh wrote:I have a rip in my trouser leg?


Yes, in this case the word is used kind of like an adjective so it loses its noun status and drops out of the plurale tantum group.
The same thing happens when the word gets used as a verb. (It is used in an informal way in UK English to mean take or earn some money, similar to the verb 'pocket')

'He'll trouser the lot and not ask for a receipt.'

Loss of countability shows up elsewhere in English, much to the dismay of my students. Japanese doesn't really have the singular/plural distinction, and messing up plurals is a common error for Japanese English learners.

They often struggle to comprehend that money is uncountable.

'How much money did you spend?' (Not 'How many monies did you spend?')
'I spent so much money last week.' (Not 'I spent so many monies last week.)

But, currency is countable.

'I spent fifty dollars.'
'I owe two hundred pounds'.
'I got 500 roubles .'

Mind you, Yen is not countable.

'He only had one yen.'
'I spent five thousand yen.'

Then, when the currency gets used in an adjective sense, it loses its countability.

'This suit cost a thousand dollars.'
'It is a thousand dollar suit.' (No 's' on the word 'dollar' here).
'A ten dollar bill.'
'A five pound note.'

After laboriously getting to the point where they remember to add 's' to nouns for plurals, my student then have to un-remember the rule in these cases.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#251  Postby The_Piper » May 16, 2019 5:33 pm

"...there is a dog there that likes to chace me..."
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#252  Postby The_Piper » May 16, 2019 9:46 pm

"Stainless steal tank"
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#253  Postby Hermit » May 17, 2019 12:53 am

Typoes don't phase me.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#254  Postby The_Piper » May 17, 2019 2:58 am

It's typos... :lol:
It wasn't a typo, they spelled it like that twice. Stainless steal. Just like those cars that need break work.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#255  Postby Hermit » May 17, 2019 5:38 am

The_Piper wrote:It's typos... :lol:
It wasn't a typo, they spelled it like that twice. Stainless steal. Just like those cars that need break work.
:lay:

Had it been a reference to any of the above posts, I would have quoted it/them. :tongue:
I also typed "phase" on purpose, when it should have been "faze". ;)
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#256  Postby Svartalf » May 17, 2019 9:21 am

The_Piper wrote:It's typos... :lol:
It wasn't a typo, they spelled it like that twice. Stainless steal. Just like those cars that need break work.
:lay:

well, maybe they are fans of the stainless steel rat, the greatest thief in SF literature.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#257  Postby The_Piper » May 20, 2019 11:34 pm

Hermit wrote:
The_Piper wrote:It's typos... :lol:
It wasn't a typo, they spelled it like that twice. Stainless steal. Just like those cars that need break work.
:lay:

Had it been a reference to any of the above posts, I would have quoted it/them. :tongue:
I also typed "phase" on purpose, when it should have been "faze". ;)

I don't think I've ever seen faze spelled like that before. Wouldn't phase me if I haven't. :dopey:
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#258  Postby The_Piper » May 20, 2019 11:37 pm

Svartalf wrote:
The_Piper wrote:It's typos... :lol:
It wasn't a typo, they spelled it like that twice. Stainless steal. Just like those cars that need break work.
:lay:

well, maybe they are fans of the stainless steel rat, the greatest thief in SF literature.

I don't know what that is. Now I forgot what they were actually advertising.

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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#259  Postby Hermit » May 21, 2019 12:05 am

The_Piper wrote:
Hermit wrote:
The_Piper wrote:It's typos... :lol:
It wasn't a typo, they spelled it like that twice. Stainless steal. Just like those cars that need break work.
:lay:

Had it been a reference to any of the above posts, I would have quoted it/them. :tongue:
I also typed "phase" on purpose, when it should have been "faze". ;)

I don't think I've ever seen faze spelled like that before. Wouldn't phase me if I haven't. :dopey:

faze
verb
[with object]informal

Disturb or disconcert (someone)
‘she was not fazed by his show of anger’

Usage
Faze has no connection with the word phase and should not be spelled with a ph-, although this is a common error: almost a quarter of citations for the word in the Oxford English Corpus are for the incorrect spelling

Origin
Mid 19th century (originally US): variant of dialect feeze ‘drive or frighten off’, from Old English fēsian, of unknown origin.
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Re: Adventures in the English language; AkaThe YGS thread

#260  Postby The_Piper » May 21, 2019 12:17 am

Those English, highbrows. :nono: :teef:
With the d at the end, fazed looks a lot more familiar. :scratch:
Spellcheck ended my grammar nazi credibility years ago.
But I can still complain. How about when people type "apart" when they mean "a part". For example "be apart of the solution". :lol:
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