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#1  Postby archibald » Jul 23, 2010 10:48 pm

Apparently, ATM machines are going to start using UPC codes, so you won't need to remember a PIN number.

Can anyone say what is wrong in that sentence, linguistically?
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#2  Postby pawiz » Jul 23, 2010 10:49 pm

What's a UPC code?
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#3  Postby Sityl » Jul 23, 2010 10:50 pm

Maybe an extra comma "codes, so"

Also, maybe adding a "that" between "so you"
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#4  Postby mmmcheezy » Jul 23, 2010 10:50 pm

archibald wrote:Apparently, ATM machines are going to start using UPC codes, so you won't need to remember a PIN number.

Can anyone say what is wrong in that sentence, linguistically?

ATM stands for automated teller machine, so the word "machine" is unnecessary. Much like PIN stands for personal identification number and UPC stands for universal pricing code [I think], thus the words "number" and "code" are also extraneous.

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#5  Postby archibald » Jul 23, 2010 10:51 pm

pawiz wrote:What's a UPC code?



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#6  Postby archibald » Jul 23, 2010 10:52 pm

mmmcheezy wrote:
archibald wrote:Apparently, ATM machines are going to start using UPC codes, so you won't need to remember a PIN number.

Can anyone say what is wrong in that sentence, linguistically?

ATM stands for automated teller machine, so the word "machine" is unnecessary. Much like PIN stands for personal identification number and UPC stands for universal pricing code [I think], thus the words "number" and "code" are also extraneous.

This is one of my hugest pet peeves.



Well done. This thread is going to be very short! :]

Saying PIN number is like saying personal identification number number.

Same goes for HIV virus too, as you know.
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#7  Postby Sityl » Jul 23, 2010 10:54 pm

archibald wrote:
mmmcheezy wrote:
archibald wrote:Apparently, ATM machines are going to start using UPC codes, so you won't need to remember a PIN number.

Can anyone say what is wrong in that sentence, linguistically?

ATM stands for automated teller machine, so the word "machine" is unnecessary. Much like PIN stands for personal identification number and UPC stands for universal pricing code [I think], thus the words "number" and "code" are also extraneous.

This is one of my hugest pet peeves.



Well done. This thread is going to be very short! :]

Same goes for HIV virus too, as you know.


I still think it should be changed to "codes so that you".

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#8  Postby pawiz » Jul 23, 2010 10:56 pm

Is it 42?
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#9  Postby archibald » Jul 23, 2010 10:56 pm

num1cubfn wrote:I still think it should be changed to "codes so that you".

:lol:



I have no objection to discussing 'that' (this?), not least because it might make my puny thread live a little longer. Lol. :]

Actually, I'm not sure that (if?) you're correct.

OTOH I have no objection if the thread dies here. :]
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#10  Postby pawiz » Jul 23, 2010 10:57 pm

If you don't mind derails I'll be glad to help this thread live. I'm just a nice (but dim) bloke.
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#11  Postby Sityl » Jul 23, 2010 10:59 pm

archibald wrote:
num1cubfn wrote:I still think it should be changed to "codes so that you".

:lol:



I have no objection to discussing 'that' (this?), not least because it might make my puny thread live a little longer. Lol. :]

Actually, I'm not sure that (if?) you're correct.


Ok, well let me at least type it out in full.

Apparently, automated teller machines are going to start using universal price codes so that you won't need to remember a personal identification number.
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#12  Postby archibald » Jul 23, 2010 11:01 pm

Perhaps its best if we just let it die a natural death. I only passed it on because I saw it last night on that very interesting quiz show which I forget the name of but which is hosted by Victoria Coren, who(m) I fancy a lot. :]
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#13  Postby Sityl » Jul 23, 2010 11:02 pm

archibald wrote:Perhaps its best if we just let it die a natural death. I only passed it on because I saw it last night on that very interesting quiz show which I forget the name of but which is hosted by Victoria Coren, who(m) I fancy a lot. :]


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#14  Postby archibald » Jul 23, 2010 11:03 pm

num1cubfn wrote:Ok, well let me at least type it out in full.

Apparently, automated teller machines are going to start using universal price codes so that you won't need to remember a personal identification number.



Yeah, I know what you're suggesting (though you're leaving out the unnecessarily duplicated words, but no matter). I'm just not actually 100% sure whether the 'that' can be left out, or not.
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#15  Postby pawiz » Jul 23, 2010 11:03 pm

num1cubfn wrote:
archibald wrote:Perhaps its best if we just let it die a natural death. I only passed it on because I saw it last night on that very interesting quiz show which I forget the name of but which is hosted by Victoria Coren, who(m) I fancy a lot. :]


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#16  Postby archibald » Jul 23, 2010 11:05 pm

It will be a pleasure. Please wait.
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#17  Postby Sityl » Jul 23, 2010 11:06 pm

archibald wrote:
num1cubfn wrote:Ok, well let me at least type it out in full.

Apparently, automated teller machines are going to start using universal price codes so that you won't need to remember a personal identification number.



Yeah, I know what you're suggesting (though you're leaving out the unnecessarily duplicated words, but no matter). I'm just not actually 100% sure whether the 'that' can be left out, or not.


I think that you CAN leave out the "that", but if you do it has a SLIGHTLY different meaning.

I think that you CAN leave out the "that", but that if you do it has a SLIGHTLY different meaning.
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#18  Postby pawiz » Jul 23, 2010 11:07 pm

archibald wrote:It will be a pleasure. Please wait.

Not willing to wait. NOW!!!
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#19  Postby archibald » Jul 23, 2010 11:08 pm

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Sorry. I got a bit carried away.
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#20  Postby Sityl » Jul 23, 2010 11:09 pm

ooooOOOOOooooo

I see why you fancy her.
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