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Re: Restroom or bathroom?

#61  Postby Fallible » Jun 10, 2016 9:26 pm

Drop a deuce.

Give birth to a little brown baby.

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#62  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jun 10, 2016 9:28 pm

I feel like we've been around this mulberry bush before.
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#63  Postby The_Piper » Jun 10, 2016 10:06 pm

Plop! Goes the weasel.
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#64  Postby The_Piper » Jun 10, 2016 10:08 pm

don't get me started wrote:
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Fallible wrote:I am unable to understand how either word actually describes a toilet. You don't go there to rest, and it doesn't have a bath in it.

Bathrooms in homes usually do have bath tubs or shower stalls. Restrooms at buildings other than homes usually don't, but if you call it a bathroom, usually no one gets pedantic about it, they know what you mean. You can call it a shitter too, and a slew of other slang words work, but that's usually among non-strangers. I'm not going to ask the secretary at a real estate officce where the hopper is, for instance. I could, but their face may turn red.
some people call it the toilet as well, but not me, because a. I'm civilized, and b. it's a room containing a toilet. I could just call it the sink and be on just as firm ground. Why not call it the windowfucking sill?


Oh, this is in language in the way we poor humans deal with reality. Calling the room after its main feature (a toilet) is entirely logical and unambiguous. It's metonymy.

Consider another aspect of English... 'Door'.
If you say " He knocked on the door" you mean he banged his knuckles on a movable panel, maybe made of wood, metal, glass or whatever, and maybe opening on hinges or sliding on rollers or whatever."
But if you say " he walked through the door." you mean he transited the space that can be occupied by the aforementioned panel, while it is in the position generally accepted as open, NOT he passed through the physical material of the panel.
More properly, we should say " he walked through the door hole." but, of course nobody says this, We understand intuitively the difference between the referent 'door' in 'close the door' and 'walk through the door'.
Similarly, we understand the meaning of 'go to the toilet' as 'go to the room where the toilet is located'.

As an adendum, my students are often amused when I tell them that my name can refer to:
a) a toilet
b) a prostitute's customer
C) an unidentified dead body

I'm going to the oven. Going to eat, then I'm going to the bed. :snooty: :tongue:
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#65  Postby Ironclad » Jun 10, 2016 10:12 pm

Animavore wrote:The jacks.

Or, Jackie's

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#66  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jun 10, 2016 10:30 pm

The terlet.
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#67  Postby Fallible » Jun 11, 2016 9:51 am

My mum calls it the wee-wee house. :picard:
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Re: Restroom or bathroom?

#68  Postby Weaver » Jun 11, 2016 10:17 am

After 20 years in the Army, I only call it a bathroom if it has a bath tub in it.

For a generic term, I use latrine.
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#69  Postby crank » Jun 11, 2016 12:44 pm

Does using a bidet count as a 'bath'?
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#70  Postby crank » Jun 11, 2016 12:49 pm

Fallible wrote:
Boyle wrote:Oh look at Miss Moneybags over here not bathing in the toilet. I bet you get your water from a faucet, too.


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Tap. A tap.

Y'all's taps are all two independent ones, is that right, by law/health regulation? I saw someone explaining how incredibly awful it was to mix the hot and cold water before it leaves the fixture, can't remember why. I think most homes went with the mixing kind starting in the 50's here, maybe a bit earlier.
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#71  Postby Fallible » Jun 11, 2016 12:56 pm

They both come out of the same nozzle, if that's what you mean, eg.

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rather than

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I can't say I've had much trouble mixing them to the right temperature, although sometimes there can be a pressure difference.
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#72  Postby monkeyboy » Jun 11, 2016 12:57 pm

crank wrote:Does using a bidet count as a 'bath'?

Still never got why bidets work like fountains sometimes in hotels and the like. I've seen em fire a foot in the air over the top of the bowl. If it's spraying like that isn't it a bit like jet washing your arse? And how on earth is that meant to be hygienic?

Growing up i'th north, we didn't see those curious things until we went overseas. You were lucky if you had a bathroom, let alone an indoor loo when I was a kid.
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#73  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jun 11, 2016 1:05 pm

The one in my grandparents' house was used as a bathtub when we were tiny.
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#74  Postby crank » Jun 11, 2016 1:13 pm

Fallible wrote:They both come out of the same nozzle, if that's what you mean, eg.

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rather than

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I can't say I've had much trouble mixing them to the right temperature, although sometimes there can be a pressure difference.

So the separate, 2-nozzle variety isn't the norm in Britland? I've been duped! Or maybe I've got water closet on the brain.
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#75  Postby Fallible » Jun 11, 2016 1:20 pm

Nah, not the norm, I don't think. It was in the past, obviously, but this house is about 25 years old and it has mixer taps throughout. I remember as a kid bath taps were separate. I first came to the UK when I was about 8, so we're talking 34 years ago there.
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#76  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jun 11, 2016 2:10 pm

Weaver wrote:
For a generic term, I use latrine.

Ooooh French, fancy! :teef:

I've heard the term 'water closet' before. That seems like a really good, descriptive one. Though I guess you don't do dishes in the water closet.
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#77  Postby The_Piper » Jun 11, 2016 10:36 pm

I don't recall ever hearing water closet being used. Bidet, I don't even know what it is. I thought it was French for orgy or something.
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#78  Postby Weaver » Jun 12, 2016 1:43 am

Never heard water closet or W.C. here.

I know what bidets are, but I don't recall ever seeing one in person. Since they've been brought up - do they regularly come furnished with towels to dry off after use? Or is one expected to blot up the remaining water with toilet paper (doesn't seem likely, given how it tends to disintegrate when wet)?
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#79  Postby Boyle » Jun 12, 2016 1:46 am

I've done dishes in a bathtub before. The regular sink was clogged with a lot of Thanksgiving stuff.
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#80  Postby The_Piper » Jun 12, 2016 3:06 am

Weaver wrote:Never heard water closet or W.C. here.

I know what bidets are, but I don't recall ever seeing one in person. Since they've been brought up - do they regularly come furnished with towels to dry off after use? Or is one expected to blot up the remaining water with toilet paper (doesn't seem likely, given how it tends to disintegrate when wet)?

:lol: Must be rags/paper towels, tp is useless when wet. Bounty bidet towels. :mrgreen:
Come to think of it, now I remember some smarty pants Red Sox fans calling Yankee stadium the bidet as well. Maybe that's the new Yankee stadium. :teef:
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