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Aggie wrote:
Is formal written German more stilted than the more informal version? I would think it would only apply to the spoken form?
Regina wrote:Aggie wrote:
Is formal written German more stilted than the more informal version? I would think it would only apply to the spoken form?
It's first of all how you address people.
Strangers and normally "authority figures" are addressed with "Sie/Ihnen" instead of "Du/Dir".
So you greet a friend: Wie geht es Dir?, or in all likelihood just: Wie geht's?
whereas with a stranger it's: Wie geht es Ihnen?
It's the equivalent of How are you? as opposed to How are you, Mr Jones?
Of course, young people will greet each other informally, unless they are in a formal context. So a bank clerk in his twenties will greet a customer if the same age formally, but should they meet at a disco, they'd be informal.
Regina wrote:Don't get me started on the spelling reform. It's beyond me. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I use written English far more frequently than written German.
See also here:
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/deutsch/ich-spreche-ein-wenig-deutsch-t29944-40.html#p1266679
Regina wrote:I hate it when English speakers in a formal context (eg business) behave as if we were sandbox buddies.
As in: Hello, Regina and then end their missive with: Regards, Jill.
It forces me to do the same, and I dislike forced familiarity.
So, that needed to be said.
JoeB wrote:Regina wrote:I hate it when English speakers in a formal context (eg business) behave as if we were sandbox buddies.
As in: Hello, Regina and then end their missive with: Regards, Jill.
It forces me to do the same, and I dislike forced familiarity.
So, that needed to be said.
Funny, over here (Netherlands) it seems to be that forced formality is seen as unpleasant.
Regina wrote:JoeB wrote:Regina wrote:I hate it when English speakers in a formal context (eg business) behave as if we were sandbox buddies.
As in: Hello, Regina and then end their missive with: Regards, Jill.
It forces me to do the same, and I dislike forced familiarity.
So, that needed to be said.
Funny, over here (Netherlands) it seems to be that forced formality is seen as unpleasant.
Ah, so it's less unpleasant when your boss kicks you out?
Funny, I'm in the Netherlands quite often, and strangers address me formally.
I prefer to keep certain people at arm's length. Not everybody is my best buddy, for goodness' sake.
The worst are the Ikea hillbillies, though. They address their customers with "Du". That's simply not the done thing here, and it's sounds like an embarrassingly weird form of sucking up to customers. Hey, buddy, come and buy our super-duper mattress and hip Billy bookshelf. Preferably with a stupid "Swedish" accent.
Scot Dutchy wrote:I once succonded to a Belgium office in Antwerp. Now that was formal!
All men were addressed to with mister (meneer) ... and all women misses ... (mevrouw).
Every morning when you came in everyone shook hands. Wierd.
Lunch was two hours and we all went to the same restaurant. It was expected.
Agrippina wrote:Scot Dutchy wrote:I once succonded to a Belgium office in Antwerp. Now that was formal!
All men were addressed to with mister (meneer) ... and all women misses ... (mevrouw).
Every morning when you came in everyone shook hands. Wierd.
Lunch was two hours and we all went to the same restaurant. It was expected.
That's so funny.
I used to work on the executive floor of a large insurance broker company, all the men used to call themselves "mister" so funny, so I used to tell them it was "mrs" on the phone. Idiots. I hate being called "mrs" I have a name and I'm happy for anyone to use it.
Agrippina wrote:Scot Dutchy wrote:I once succonded to a Belgium office in Antwerp. Now that was formal!
All men were addressed to with mister (meneer) ... and all women misses ... (mevrouw).
Every morning when you came in everyone shook hands. Wierd.
Lunch was two hours and we all went to the same restaurant. It was expected.
That's so funny.
I used to work on the executive floor of a large insurance broker company, all the men used to call themselves "mister" so funny, so I used to tell them it was "mrs" on the phone. Idiots. I hate being called "mrs" I have a name and I'm happy for anyone to use it.
Agrippina wrote:...On the dialect thing. It's definitely only a spoken issue...
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