The definition of a "mental disorder."

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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#41  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 04, 2018 7:58 pm

I'm looking at my hand right now lak, and if I look in one of my mirrors I can see myself...then there's introspection.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#42  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 12:44 am

LucidFlight wrote:Happy to go with KiR's definition.


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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#43  Postby surreptitious57 » Mar 05, 2018 1:08 am

Keep It Real wrote:
A mental disorder also called a mental illness [2] or psychiatric disorder is a behavioral or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning [3] Such features may be persistent and relapsing and remitting or occur as a single episode. Many disorders have been described with signs and symptoms that vary
widely between specific disorders [4] [5] Such disorders may be diagnosed by a mental health professional

This is hugely inadequate/inaccurate/problematic by my mind. If somebody commits a crime and is caught and punished for it that causes significant distress and impairment of personal functioning. If a spouse is unfaithful and gets away with it with no feelings of remorse/guilt or projected thoughts of infidelity then no problem. If they do have such feelings then they do have a mental illness however likewise if they are busted by their spouse who is livid about it but only after they have found out. If they are not angry at the infidelity again no mental illness. There are about a gazillion other examples I estimate

All mental disorders cause significant distress or impairment of personal functioning as they are defined above but not every thing that does that is a mental disorder. They are a subset of the things that do this. Those examples that you mention are outside of that subset so are not relevant to the point that you are trying to make. Simply because the definition of mental disorder can apply to other things does not mean that it is flawed because they have nothing at all to do with the definition

You also forgot to factor in free will. I can choose to commit a crime or adultery. I cannot choose to be mentally ill
What my mind imposes on me I have no control over. And I have to accept it because it is more powerful than I am

Furthermore the definition of mental illness / psychiatric disorder in the medical literature is defined by professionals with many years experience in their particular fields whether it be psychiatry and / or psychology. Since they are scientists then the definition will not be absolute given how science is inductive not deductive. A better one may exist at some point in the future but the current one like any scientific definition will have to suffice for now

Also every human being displays psychiatric disorder like behaviour at some point in their life so the demarcation between the mentally ill and non mentally ill is a false dichotomy. Rather it should be between those quality of life is significantly impaired by mental illness and those whose quality of life is not. For it can happen to anyone and no one is immune from
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#44  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 2:16 am

Fallible wrote:Guilt and anger about infidelity are emotions which some experience due to the morality we apparently have adopted.


I beg to differ. Ambiguous paternity is hard wired, although of course that most likely doesn't ring true to you instinctively as ur a lady.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#45  Postby Fallible » Mar 05, 2018 7:22 am

What?
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#46  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 8:29 am

Most men don't like their female lover(s) sleeping with other men because of ambiguous paternity (contraception technology is not accessible to such visceral/instinctual emotions). Women always know their genes are represented so instinctively care less if their man sleeps around. That's why 1 husband and multiple wives are/has been relatively common but the same cannot be said about the opposite. It's the most obvious truth in the world isn't it?
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#47  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Mar 05, 2018 8:36 am

Most scenarios in which a woman has multiple male partners don't even involve reproduction.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#48  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 8:53 am

Keep It Real wrote:Most men don't like their female lover(s) sleeping with other men because of ambiguous paternity (contraception technologies and techniques (eg. the rhythm method) are not accessible to such visceral/instinctual emotions). Women always know their genes are represented so instinctively care less if their man sleeps around. That's why 1 husband and multiple wives are/has been relatively common but the same cannot be said about the opposite. It's the most obvious truth in the world isn't it?
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#49  Postby surreptitious57 » Mar 05, 2018 9:20 am


Women care less about adultery because of their genes

How many cans did you have to drink before writing this

That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard in my entire life
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#50  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 9:27 am

I view your post with mutual feelings sur.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#51  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 05, 2018 9:31 am

Anybody got any other explanation for why so many male serial killers target prostitutes? Didn't think so.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#52  Postby Fallible » Mar 05, 2018 9:59 am

Keep It Real wrote:Most men don't like their female lover(s) sleeping with other men because of ambiguous paternity (contraception technology is not accessible to such visceral/instinctual emotions). Women always know their genes are represented so instinctively care less if their man sleeps around. That's why 1 husband and multiple wives are/has been relatively common but the same cannot be said about the opposite. It's the most obvious truth in the world isn't it?


Oh, this bollocks again. No, KIR. It's the most obvious bollocks in the world, but it's a favourite of yours apparently.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#53  Postby Fallible » Mar 05, 2018 10:00 am

Keep It Real wrote:Anybody got any other explanation for why so many male serial killers target prostitutes? Didn't think so.


Because it's easy.

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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#54  Postby aban57 » Mar 05, 2018 10:52 am

I had stopped coming to KIR's multiple same threads, but It looks like I missed on a lot of interesting bullshit.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#55  Postby surreptitious57 » Mar 05, 2018 1:34 pm

Keep It Real wrote:
Women always know their genes are represented so instinctively care less if their man sleeps around

The following reasons all disprove that rubbish

No woman in a serious relationship thinks like this

A husbands single infidelity can destroy a marriage

When a man gets another woman pregnant his genes are passed on not his partners

Though most cases of adultery do not result in pregnancy so no genes are passed on

But where there is an unwanted pregnancy the woman will usually have an abortion

Men are more promiscuous than women because they have higher testosterone levels

So they are therefore more likely to commit adultery than women for this very reason

Men have traditionally been respected for having multiple sexual partners and still are

Women have traditionally been shamed for having multiple sexual partners and still are
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#56  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Mar 05, 2018 4:07 pm

The idea the one true harm that can come from infidelity is someone being bamboozled into raising a kid that isn't biologically theirs is ridiculous.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#57  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 05, 2018 4:17 pm

Keep It Real wrote:Anybody got any other explanation for why so many male serial killers target prostitutes? Didn't think so.

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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#58  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Mar 05, 2018 4:22 pm

Couldn't be that they're highly vulnerable and therefore easy targets.
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Re: The definition of a "mental disorder."

#59  Postby BlackBart » Mar 05, 2018 4:25 pm

No other explanation. Other than the blatantly obvious ones of course.
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#60  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 05, 2018 4:31 pm

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:Couldn't be that they're highly vulnerable and therefore easy targets.


Couldn't be!
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