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#1  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 01, 2011 11:34 am

All right. I got my BSc degree in 2007, in electronics engineering. Of course, that degree required a semester of differential calculus and a semester of integral calculus. Before I leapt straight into that unknown world, I thought it wise to take a college algebra and trigonometry course first. It was a wise choice.

However, since that time, I have had no need for that mathematics, and my skills in that area have atrophied shockingly. I remember while taking the courses, explaining the concepts to my wife while we were on our evening walks. I couldn't integrate or differentiate a problem today if my life depended on it. Fuck! I worked damned hard to get those skills, and now I can't find them.

So, to remedy that problem, I have started to go back through my textbooks, and self study this subject to regain what I've lost through disuse. I have two textbooks:

  • College Algebra and Trigonometry (3rd Edition), by Margaret L. Lial, John Hornsby, and David I. Schneider.
  • Calculus: Early Transcendental Functions (3rd Edition), by Ron Larson, Bob Hostetler, and Bruce Edwards.

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I've linked those images to the pages on Amazon where they are listed. Used copies are available for less than $2 apiece.

Here's how I want to proceed:

First, I just want to find out if anyone else is interested in doing this with me, or at least following along here and correcting my work when I need it. If there's no interest here, there's no reason for me to take the time and effort to post the problems and my solutions here. Particularly, since we have no equation editor on this forum. But if there is some interest, I plan on simply writing the problems and solutions on a chalkboard, and posting a link to an image of the chalkboard here. When I did my coursework, I started with an equation editor, but then just did my work by hand on paper and scanned it into a pdf file I could post.

Anyone want to learn some mathematics?
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#2  Postby rEvolutionist » Jul 01, 2011 2:34 pm

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#3  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 01, 2011 4:11 pm

Well, I take it that's a "no", then.
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#4  Postby twistor59 » Jul 01, 2011 4:50 pm

Don't mind helping out if I can, though I won't have time to do all the exercises (I'm doing a similar job already since I occasionally help my kids who are doing GCSEs and A levels at the moment). If you post anything you get stuck on, though, I'm sure dozens of people will jump in to help.
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#5  Postby cavarka9 » Jul 04, 2011 6:46 pm

I left my job to get back my skills to Get that PHD seat. So yes.
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#6  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 04, 2011 8:46 pm

I'm trying to solve the chalkboard problem. Need about a square meter on wheels.
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#7  Postby aban57 » Jul 04, 2011 8:53 pm

I'm in :)
I used to love maths at school and it's been killing me for years to feel this knowledge leaving.
Of course I'm not sure I reached your level, but still...
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#8  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 04, 2011 8:57 pm

Then you can help me find a chalkboard on a wooden wheeled stand, so i can roll it around the house where needed. A square meter should do. Chalk (craie, I think), not whiteboard. Or perhaps chalkboard paint...
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#9  Postby aban57 » Jul 05, 2011 9:26 am

well your kids go to a school, maybe they have one stored somewhere
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#10  Postby 95Theses » Jul 05, 2011 10:30 am

1m x 1m blackboard:

http://www.boards4u.co.uk/unframed-blac ... s-_27.aspx

Portable easel for up to 110cm boards:

http://www.easelstore.co.uk/severn-sketching-easel.html

I just bought the same things for a totally different purpose
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#11  Postby cavarka9 » Jul 05, 2011 11:50 am

I have a slate, I bought it recently, preparing myself for getting into this.
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#12  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 05, 2011 12:32 pm

I know of an art store downtown that may have, or can probably get, similar things to what you linked to, 95Theses. But if not, will check those stores out.

Regardless, I see no real reason to delay starting this little vignette. I'll post something up tonight. It will probably be beneath all of us, so that just means we'll move on quickly.

It turns out I have access to a Moodle server with unlimited bandwidth and storage space with my hosting service. If someone knows how to set up Moodle to serve a mathematics course, we can use that instead of this forum. If not, I will still look into it, and we may migrate to that later. Again, no point using that to delay beginning.
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#13  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 05, 2011 8:05 pm

Listen up, guys. This is going to go much quicker and easier for all of us if we have the same textbook. The cover photos in my OP are links to these textbooks on amazon.com. It'll cost more to ship them than the books cost. Who can get them? The student solutions manuals for these texts are also still available and cover the odd numbered questions.
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#14  Postby cavarka9 » Jul 06, 2011 10:39 am

Could you please tell what are the topics in those books, In
College Algebra and Trigonometry (3rd Edition), by Margaret L. Lial, John Hornsby, and David I. Schneider.
Calculus: Early Transcendental Functions (3rd Edition), by Ron Larson, Bob Hostetler, and Bruce Edwards.
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#15  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 08, 2011 8:30 pm

I'm concerned about one other issue, and I think it's serious. That of copyright.
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Me posting problems from this book so we can work them together isn't going to fly. I can get aban57 copies of this book cheap. He orks across the desk from me. Cavarka, how can we get them to you? Have you looked at any of the Amazon sellers, and can any of them ship to you?

We can go over our answers, this is not a problem. Especially if we each have a copy of the book.

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#16  Postby cavarka9 » Jul 08, 2011 9:06 pm

I will try to get that book you mentioned, I am not sure about trignometry, I dont have to do that I think, if you could mention the topics, then I will know which ones to take interest in.
I have at present this book
Advanced Engineering Mathematics by michael d greenberg.

Let me see, Also mathematical methods for physicists by Mary L Boas does sound good I think. And thanks meta, I too brought a board today.

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#17  Postby cavarka9 » Jul 08, 2011 9:19 pm

4th edition by larson, got it.
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#18  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 08, 2011 9:22 pm

cavarka9 wrote:4th edition by larson, got it.

I'm not going through the 4th edition. 3rd edition. Of both books in my OP.
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#19  Postby cavarka9 » Jul 08, 2011 9:33 pm

The_Metatron wrote:
cavarka9 wrote:4th edition by larson, got it.

I'm not going through the 4th edition. 3rd edition. Of both books in my OP.


well, I suppose there will be an extension, I guess. I am unable to get that.
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#20  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 08, 2011 9:38 pm

I can. You want me to check on postage to you?
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