The Reason For The Proscription Against Division By Zero

The_Piper · **#181** by **The_Piper** » Nov 10, 2018 2:58 pm

BlackBart wrote:Dividing a number by zero is the same as not dividing it by anything therefore...

A/0 = A

A/1 also equals A

Therefore 1 is equal to 0

Take that atheists!!

It's as simple as the bolded part. What follows the bolded blew my mind. :lol:

scherado · **#182** by **scherado** » Nov 10, 2018 3:02 pm

The_Piper wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Dividing a number by zero is the same as not dividing it by anything therefore...

A/0 = A

A/1 also equals A

Therefore 1 is equal to 0

Take that atheists!!

It's as simple as the bolded part. What follows the bolded blew my mind.

That's too bad, as what's in red can't be performed.

Now you need a new mind and you threw it all away on a big fat error.

laklak · **#183** by **laklak** » Nov 10, 2018 3:28 pm

Isn't it a proof by contradiction? Assume you can divide by zero, which leads to the contradiction 1 = 0.

scott1328 · **#184** by **scott1328** » Nov 10, 2018 3:29 pm

scherado wrote:This post left intentionally blank.

[I first encountered this technique of identifying an empty page when I worked for IBM. I thought it was silly until I learned that the publications departments were required to write their manuals using no higher than grade-8 reading level.]

Significantly altering a post is a violation of forum rules, especially if it has received replies. I have asked a moderator to restore the original comment.

The_Piper · **#185** by **The_Piper** » Nov 10, 2018 4:16 pm

scherado wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Dividing a number by zero is the same as not dividing it by anything therefore...

A/0 = A

A/1 also equals A

Therefore 1 is equal to 0

Take that atheists!!

It's as simple as the bolded part. What follows the bolded blew my mind.

That's too bad, as what's in red can't be performed.

Now you need a new mind and you threw it all away on a big fat error.

This basket has 6 apples. I would like to divide them between Jimmy and Johnny. So I divide 6 by two people. Jimmy and Johnny each get 3 apples.
This basket has 11 apples. I would like to divide the apples between no one. 11 apples divided by no people equals 11 apples.

newolder · **#186** by **newolder** » Nov 10, 2018 4:20 pm

scherado wrote:This post left intentionally blank.

If it left, where did it go? :ask:

scott1328 · **#187** by **scott1328** » Nov 10, 2018 4:47 pm

The_Piper wrote:
scherado wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Dividing a number by zero is the same as not dividing it by anything therefore...

A/0 = A

A/1 also equals A

Therefore 1 is equal to 0

Take that atheists!!

It's as simple as the bolded part. What follows the bolded blew my mind.

That's too bad, as what's in red can't be performed.

Now you need a new mind and you threw it all away on a big fat error.

This basket has 6 apples. I would like to divide them between Jimmy and Johnny. So I divide 6 by two people. Jimmy and Johnny each get 3 apples.
This basket has 11 apples. I would like to divide the apples between no one. 11 apples divided by no people equals 11 apples.

And to how many people can you give no apples? 0? 6? 7,000,000,000? In fact every day I give more than 7,000,000,000 people no apples.

kiore · **#188** by **kiore** » Nov 10, 2018 4:50 pm

scott1328 wrote:
scherado wrote:This post left intentionally blank.

[I first encountered this technique of identifying an empty page when I worked for IBM. I thought it was silly until I learned that the publications departments were required to write their manuals using no higher than grade-8 reading level.]
Significantly altering a post is a violation of forum rules, especially if it has received replies. I have asked a moderator to restore the original comment.

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GENERAL MODNOTE
The content of the edited post was submitted again in the next post. Schredo please do not alter your posts significantly once submitted like this as at the least this is disruptive to replies in this discussion. Your edit introduced different content and this is disruptive to discussion. You are advised not to do this.

scherado · **#189** by **scherado** » Nov 10, 2018 10:19 pm

Fallible wrote:
scherado wrote:This post left intentionally blank.

Not sure why. The post you did submit starts off with the same comment you made previously before you deleted it.

Do you think it's related to not being able to delete a post? What I did was combine two posts into one instead of having two, but, as you can see, two remain because I can't delete a post.

Capeesh?

scherado · **#190** by **scherado** » Nov 10, 2018 10:24 pm

Schredo? That's not even close.

I never should have bothered to consolidate the two posts, reminding us all that "no good deed goes unpunished."

THE EXACT CONTENT WAS MOVED INTO THE POST THAT FOLLOWED IT.

scherado · **#191** by **scherado** » Nov 10, 2018 10:26 pm

scott1328 wrote:
scherado wrote:This post left intentionally blank.

[I first encountered this technique of identifying an empty page when I worked for IBM. I thought it was silly until I learned that the publications departments were required to write their manuals using no higher than grade-8 reading level.]
Significantly altering a post is a violation of forum rules, especially if it has received replies. I have asked a moderator to restore the original comment.

What's the original comment? Has the moderator restored the original comment?

The original comment was in the post in question less than 5 minutes. I doubt that anyone responded. I will now make that determination.

scherado · **#192** by **scherado** » Nov 10, 2018 10:45 pm

Here is the content that WAS in the post that now contains "left intentionally blank" and that was consolidated into the post that follows it. (I am having trouble determining what is "disruptive" about this.)

Evolving wrote:What a jocular thread this has become.

Ain't infinity wonderful?!?!?! And let's give some credit to Zero for being a big fat nothing.

scott1328 · **#193** by **scott1328** » Nov 10, 2018 10:47 pm

scherado wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
scherado wrote:This post left intentionally blank.

[I first encountered this technique of identifying an empty page when I worked for IBM. I thought it was silly until I learned that the publications departments were required to write their manuals using no higher than grade-8 reading level.]
Significantly altering a post is a violation of forum rules, especially if it has received replies. I have asked a moderator to restore the original comment.

What's the original comment? Has the moderator restored the original comment?

The original comment was in the post in question less than 5 minutes. I doubt that anyone responded. I will now make that determination.

That just proves you don’t pay attention to what people you are interacting with have to say. You are merely here trolling, just as you do on the science forum you also troll.

I responded to your comment and you STILL can’t find it?

scherado · **#194** by **scherado** » Nov 10, 2018 11:02 pm

The_Piper wrote:...
This basket has 6 apples. I would like to divide them between Jimmy and Johnny. So I divide 6 by two people. Jimmy and Johnny each get 3 apples.
This basket has 11 apples. I would like to divide the apples between no one. 11 apples divided by no people equals 11 apples.

I appreciate that. I thank you for the attempt to explain.

When you decided that you would like to "divide the apples between no one," you decided to do NOTHING. No operation is performed. There is a great difference between the classroom and real world. This: "11 apples divided by no people equals 11 apples" never occurred.

Would you fill out a withdrawal slip to get money out of your bank account and put 0 as the amount to be withdrawn? The teller would hand the slip back to you--no operation (withdrawal) is performed.

Do you know what I'm going to have to do now? I'm going to have to start a thread to "deconstruct" the old, reliable "2 + 2" violation accusation. Oh yes. If you think I've contributed nothing now, wait until you see that thread!

newolder · **#195** by **newolder** » Nov 10, 2018 11:07 pm

scherado wrote:
The_Piper wrote:...
This basket has 6 apples. I would like to divide them between Jimmy and Johnny. So I divide 6 by two people. Jimmy and Johnny each get 3 apples.
This basket has 11 apples. I would like to divide the apples between no one. 11 apples divided by no people equals 11 apples.

I appreciate that. I thank you for the attempt to explain.

When you decided that you would like to "divide the apples between no one," you decided to do NOTHING. No operation is performed. There is a great difference between the classroom and real world. This: "11 apples divided by no people equals 11 apples" never occurred.

Would you fill out a withdrawal slip to get money out of your bank account and put 0 as the amount to be withdrawn? The teller would hand the slip back to you--no operation (withdrawal) is performed.

Do you know what I'm going to have to do now? I'm going to have to start a thread to "deconstruct" the old, reliable "2 + 2" violation accusation. Oh yes. If you think I've contributed nothing now, wait until you see that thread!

When you get to the Exceptional Lie group E8, let me know...

scherado · **#196** by **scherado** » Nov 10, 2018 11:15 pm

scott1328 wrote:
scherado wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
scherado wrote:This post left intentionally blank.

[I first encountered this technique of identifying an empty page when I worked for IBM. I thought it was silly until I learned that the publications departments were required to write their manuals using no higher than grade-8 reading level.]
Significantly altering a post is a violation of forum rules, especially if it has received replies. I have asked a moderator to restore the original comment.

What's the original comment? Has the moderator restored the original comment?

The original comment was in the post in question less than 5 minutes. I doubt that anyone responded. I will now make that determination.

That just proves you don’t pay attention to what people you are interacting with have to say. You are merely here trolling, just as you do on the science forum you also troll.

I responded to your comment and you STILL can’t find it?

The science forum? I do not write in another forum.

I just spent 7 days in county jail and got out yesterday (Friday). I'm doing the best I can. Further, I'm HOMELESS (since March '18) and unemployed and it's nearly bleeping WINTER here. As a matter of fact, we had snow squalls all day today. I post from my laptop at a coffee shop or the public library.

I know that you could not have known this. I am not trolling this forum. I respond when I am able.

scherado · **#197** by **scherado** » Nov 10, 2018 11:17 pm

newolder wrote:
scherado wrote:
The_Piper wrote:...
This basket has 6 apples. I would like to divide them between Jimmy and Johnny. So I divide 6 by two people. Jimmy and Johnny each get 3 apples.
This basket has 11 apples. I would like to divide the apples between no one. 11 apples divided by no people equals 11 apples.

I appreciate that. I thank you for the attempt to explain.

When you decided that you would like to "divide the apples between no one," you decided to do NOTHING. No operation is performed. There is a great difference between the classroom and real world. This: "11 apples divided by no people equals 11 apples" never occurred.

Would you fill out a withdrawal slip to get money out of your bank account and put 0 as the amount to be withdrawn? The teller would hand the slip back to you--no operation (withdrawal) is performed.

Do you know what I'm going to have to do now? I'm going to have to start a thread to "deconstruct" the old, reliable "2 + 2" violation accusation. Oh yes. If you think I've contributed nothing now, wait until you see that thread!

When you get to the Exceptional Lie group E8, let me know...

"If there is a hell, I'll see you there." -Trent Reznor, The Downward Spiral, Heresy.

scott1328 · **#198** by **scott1328** » Nov 10, 2018 11:26 pm

scherado wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
scherado wrote:
scott1328 wrote:Significantly altering a post is a violation of forum rules, especially if it has received replies. I have asked a moderator to restore the original comment.

What's the original comment? Has the moderator restored the original comment?

The original comment was in the post in question less than 5 minutes. I doubt that anyone responded. I will now make that determination.

That just proves you don’t pay attention to what people you are interacting with have to say. You are merely here trolling, just as you do on the science forum you also troll.

I responded to your comment and you STILL can’t find it?

The science forum? I do not write in another forum.

I just spent 7 days in county jail and got out yesterday (Friday). I'm doing the best I can. Further, I'm HOMELESS (since March '18) and unemployed and it's nearly bleeping WINTER here. As a matter of fact, we had snow squalls all day today. I post from my laptop at a coffee shop or the public library.

I know that you could not have known this. I am not trolling this forum. I respond when I am able.

https://www.scienceforums.net/profile/132808-scherado/

You haven’t been there for a year, how fortunate for us that you started posting here.

Tell me, how does one with three whole semesters of college calculus wind up homeless and recently jailed?

My sympathies for what sounds like desperate situation, but your behavior on this forum certainly squelches most of my empathy.

Rachel Bronwyn · **#199** by **Rachel Bronwyn** » Nov 10, 2018 11:58 pm

Calculus credits hardly keep you out of prison.

OlivierK · **#200** by **OlivierK** » Nov 11, 2018 12:04 am

scherado wrote:Would you fill out a withdrawal slip to get money out of your bank account and put 0 as the amount to be withdrawn? The teller would hand the slip back to you--no operation (withdrawal) is performed.

Great. After all this time not providing a correct reason for proscription against division by zero, you've moved on to making arguments for a prescription against subtraction of zero. I must admit I'm learning things my pure mathematics degree never taught me.

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