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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#161  Postby orpheus » Jun 02, 2012 11:20 pm

THWOTH wrote:Nice piece, and nice carving, from Mr Salonen. I must check him out.

Cheers Uncle. :cheers:


Glad you liked it. I've seem so many posers among conductors and composers. But E-P is the real thing.

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#162  Postby Kazaman » Jun 02, 2012 11:33 pm

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Shrunk wrote:
orpheus wrote:Foreign Bodies, composed and conducted by Esa-Pekka Salonen. E-P is an old friend, and I think the world of him. But he's also irritatingly talented. :lay:


Part of a vanishing breed that once was common in the musical world: The composer/conductor equally accomplished in both fields. Boulez is the only other one I can think of still around.


E-P and I both studied with the same teacher - Jorma Panula - who insisted that his students try to do everything: compose, conduct, play, arrange... of course Esa-Pekka is unusually talented. But I think Panula was right: it makes one a more well-rounded musician. And the activities cross-fertilize one another. By conducting you learn what is and is not practical to write for the orchestra. And by composing you learn "from the inside" why other composers made the choices they did.


My teacher pushes such a method as well. I had previously studied piano and neglected all else, but now I am taking theory, history, organ and voice alongside piano and it's really a much more enriching and I dare say a more enjoyable experience.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#163  Postby THWOTH » Jun 03, 2012 2:07 am

More strings to your bow, more power to your elbow eh Kaz. :D

Anyway, some of my favourite bars of music are found in the third movement of Bruckner's ninth - here performed by the WDR Symphony at Cologne Cathedral, conducted (a bit stolidly) by Gilbert Levine. Rattle has a new version out with the Berlin Phil - seriously tempted.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KzWHdRh1BA[/youtube]


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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#164  Postby orpheus » Jun 03, 2012 3:50 am

THWOTH wrote:More strings to your bow, more power to your elbow eh Kaz. :D

Anyway, some of my favourite bars of music are found in the third movement of Bruckner's ninth - here performed by the WDR Symphony at Cologne Cathedral, conducted (a bit stolidly) by Gilbert Levine. Rattle has a new version out with the Berlin Phil - seriously tempted.


From the Berlin Phil's "Digital Concert Hall" page:
http://www.digitalconcerthall.com/en/co ... e-bruckner

There's an interview there with Rattle about the completed version of the 9th. (I didn't have time yet to listen/watch the interview.)
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#165  Postby THWOTH » Jun 04, 2012 12:00 am

Thanks Uncle :thumbup: that was the clincher. :D
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#166  Postby THWOTH » Jun 06, 2012 4:31 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCQcoszP2Mk[/youtube]

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#167  Postby Shrunk » Jun 06, 2012 5:57 pm

I'll be seeing Phillip Glass' Einstein on the Beach later this week. Not a work of which I ever expected to see a production, so kudos to whoever managed to bring it to Toronto.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ5hTfDzU9A[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#168  Postby THWOTH » Jun 12, 2012 1:51 am

How was it Shrunk?

I heard this on the radio for the first time on Sunday - one of those 'stopped in your tracks' moments. Knut Nystedt's Immortal Bach. A piece for three antiphonal choirs which starts with the choral Komm, süßer Tod, and then is developed as the harmony parts are slowly expanded to reveal shimmering inner resonances.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9TA5NWwxY[/youtube]

Stunning. Beautiful.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suW_Q12q-R0[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#169  Postby Kazaman » Jun 12, 2012 2:28 am

Has anyone here watched Ian Bostridge's Wintereisse? Absolutely sublime, with an interesting take by director David Alden.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLsaSm5iG9o[/youtube]

A handy playlist with the entire production of the cycle, along with a comical and insightful documentary on the filming and some extraneous videos of Bostridge has been compiled by an anymous YouTuber here.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#170  Postby Shrunk » Jun 12, 2012 10:11 am

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#171  Postby Kazaman » Jun 15, 2012 2:54 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSr2oz15Xk[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#172  Postby Kazaman » Jul 11, 2012 8:49 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRIkfzooESc[/youtube]

Ahhhh. The Bavokerk's organ is so lovely. :)
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#173  Postby Kazaman » Jul 11, 2012 11:58 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqnlFvFhNFE[/youtube]

Phew! Such clarity, especially in the ornamentation.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#174  Postby Kazaman » Jul 12, 2012 4:00 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzx-s46vjpY[/youtube]

This is just fantastic. An opera for children by contemporary composer Menotti. Some charming post-Romantic writing and an equally charming plot.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#175  Postby Kazaman » Jul 17, 2012 1:50 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIEXhnRN1ME[/youtube]

Her Liszt Sonata is superlative! Absolutely breathtaking control and sense of structure. Part two is easy to find.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#176  Postby orpheus » Jul 17, 2012 3:01 am

And nice to see the Caspar David Friedrich on the cover. (The color's off though.)
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#177  Postby Kazaman » Jul 19, 2012 4:22 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QrcLNbOtH8[/youtube]

I'm currently studying the second prelude and fugue in this video (no. 18 in f). It's very beautiful, and of course Ms. Nikolayeva (to whom the set is dedicated) spins a fantastic interpretation.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#178  Postby THWOTH » Jul 20, 2012 2:44 pm

William Walton, Sonata for Strings (1971)

He 'cheated' and adapted this from his A minor String Quartet, but in doing so I think he produced a more startling and provocative piece than the original. Full work here, c.20mins

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI0TXLnVK4U[/youtube]


  1. Allegro
  2. Presto
  3. Lento
  4. Allegro molto

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#179  Postby Kazaman » Jul 31, 2012 8:58 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBuPbeDxaHU[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#180  Postby THWOTH » Aug 12, 2012 2:38 pm

Hmm - not sure about that as a piece but interesting as a document.
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