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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#21  Postby ramseyoptom » Mar 26, 2011 9:18 pm

And here is probably the best interpretation of Elgar's Cello Concerto - Jaqueline du Pre conductor Sir John Barbarolli

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVTe8Zm1Xrk[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#22  Postby THWOTH » Mar 26, 2011 10:03 pm

divagreen wrote:Does this one count?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRwaVanPTDE[/youtube]

Hmm. :ask: Though I am in broad agreement with this person when it comes to the categorisation of music, and am certainly in agreement with this person when it comes to distinguishing certain musical traditions, I would say that the clip above is not really part of the western classical tradition which I intended as the anchor to the thread, and therefore would probably be better placed in the Folk Music Thread. How does that sound? :D

However, there's nothing to stop us getting one tradition's take on another, in fact that is quite common (see the Schnittke above for example), so how about a bit of Beethoven's Schottische Lieder as a compromise? :D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3sAg3t6pjE[/youtube]

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#23  Postby BrandySpears » Mar 27, 2011 2:06 am

Transcriptions - the taboo of the purists.

Busoni: Bach organ chorale (Leipzig) "Nun komm der Heiden Heiland"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PzGf-_zKuM[/youtube]

Busoni: Bach organ chorale (Orgelbuchlein) "Ich ruf zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlgyCb6vfg[/youtube]

Guillou: Mussorgsky's "Pictures of an Exhibition"
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#24  Postby THWOTH » Mar 27, 2011 2:20 am

BrandySpears wrote:Transcriptions - the taboo of the purists....

Heretic! Burn her, burn her!!

Actually the "I call to you Mr Jesus!" is pretty good isn't it? :nod: I love what it says at the top of the Youtube comments for that:

    "one who compared horowitz' and Lipatti's perfofmance of this piece would be as senseless as one who tried to show that sky is more beautiful than sea or vice versa"
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#25  Postby BrandySpears » Mar 27, 2011 4:03 am

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BrandySpears wrote:Transcriptions - the taboo of the purists....

Heretic! Burn her, burn her!!

Actually the "I call to you Mr Jesus!" is pretty good isn't it? :nod: I love what it says at the top of the Youtube comments for that:

    "one who compared horowitz' and Lipatti's perfofmance of this piece would be as senseless as one who tried to show that sky is more beautiful than sea or vice versa"


I think that a lot of transcriptions that are well written are almost new pieces on their own merit - at the very least they are a reinvention.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#26  Postby THWOTH » Mar 29, 2011 9:22 pm

I agree BS. :nod:

Now, please forgive me, but I have to confess that I can't stand Beethoven orchestral work. For the most part they seem like taking a club to the dominant cadence and hitting it again and again and again. Oh, I know he has his moments - but for me they are few and far between when it comes to his larger, 'Oo look at me, I'm Ludo and I'm being so daring mien Liebling' works. However, I think the playfulness of this device really does shine out in many of his chamber works. I love the way he builds and the break your expectations with the subtle melodic interplay between instruments in this...

Adagio from Violin Sonata Op24.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHu1tqg_2k[/youtube]


I'd have that performed at my funeral you know. Along with about 4 or 5 hours of other music too! :D
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#27  Postby THWOTH » Mar 30, 2011 7:36 am

Sorry. Obviously stumped everyone with my criticism of Beethoven. ;P

Renowned British tenor Robert Tear died yesterday. Here he is with Julian Bream singing Thomas Morley's I Saw My Lady Weep on Japanese TV in 1998.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkSQLt8jTNQ[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#28  Postby BrandySpears » Mar 31, 2011 4:07 am

THWOTH wrote:
Renowned British tenor Robert Tear died yesterday. Here he is with Julian Bream singing Thomas Morley's I Saw My Lady Weep on Japanese TV in 1998.


Very nice. It's rare to have a vocalist sitting :thumbup:


One of my favorite is bari-hunk Teddy Tahu Rhodes. Talented as well as eye-candy :lol: He has a shaved head now.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#29  Postby LucidFlight » Apr 03, 2011 5:19 am

Pachelbel's Canon in D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvNQLJ1_HQ0[/youtube]

Performed on original instruments by San Francisco Early Music Ensemble Voices of Music. Featuring Katherine Kyme, Carla Moore & Cynthia Freivogel, baroque violin; Tanya Tomkins, baroque cello, Hanneke van Proosdij, baroque organ; David Tayler, theorbo.

About the performance: the canon is played using not only the instruments but also the bowing techniques from the time of Pachelbel. As you can see from the video, especially if you look at the high definition version, the string instruments are not only baroque, but they are in baroque setup: this means that the strings, fingerboard, bridge and other parts of the violin appear just as they did in Pachelbel's time.

No metal hardware such as chinrests, clamps or fine tuners are used on the violins, allowing the violins to vibrate freely. A good example of baroque bowing can be seen in the extended passage of repeated notes: the musicians play these notes on one bow—the shorter & lighter baroque bow—to created a gliding effect. The players also hold the bow very differently which affects the balance and touch. Both the style and the amount of vibrato are based on baroque treatises which describe the methods for playing, bowing & articulation in the late 17th century.

The narrow, shimmering vibrato blends with the baroque organ. The organ used is made entirely of wood, based on German baroque instruments, and the pipes are voiced to provide a smooth accompaniment to the strings, instead of a more soloistic sound.

The large bass lute, or theorbo, provides a complement to the organ not only in the texture of the chords but also the long strings which occasionally sound the bass notes an octave lower. The continuo players play supporting chords and voices to the canon, carefully avoiding parallels and doublings of the parts.

Another feature of the video is the subtle differences in not only the sound and color of the instruments, but also the different techniques of the players. All three are playing baroque violins with baroque bows, yet each person has her own distinct sound and bowing style—each bow has a different shape and balance. If you look at paintings of 17th century players you will see that they are all different, because that individuality of sound and technique was highly valued. This allows the players and the listeners to hear and appreciate the "Voices of Music."

Many comments refer to the pitch. D Major is a key, not a pitch; this piece is in D Major at A=415.3 Hz. Using a strobe, you can measure the frequency of the first violin note, which is 555 Hz in this temperament. Using simple math, you can then derive the A frequency of 415, which in this case is roughly equivalent to the Pythagorean primes of 3/4: 415÷555≈0.75 We chose a baroque pitch and temperament from the time of Pachelbel.

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#30  Postby BrandySpears » Apr 05, 2011 6:51 pm

Argentine tango music: Astor Piazzolla's Libertango performed by The Italian Saxophone Quartet.

The soprano sax is very nice!
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#31  Postby THWOTH » Apr 05, 2011 6:57 pm

...and yet the tenor sax is the king of instruments! Image

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlYdLfn_FKs[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#32  Postby THWOTH » Apr 06, 2011 5:14 pm

Forty years to the day since Igor Stravinsky died. Here's two of my favs...

Three Pieces For Clarinet Solo

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tNWjh4s2qQ[/youtube]


Concerto for Stings
Mvt I

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkMvIbE4rok[/youtube]


Mvt II
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNWu_M6Uf4Y[/youtube]


Mvt III
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZGNlAkBMc4[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#33  Postby Blip » Apr 06, 2011 5:22 pm

I love this

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2zc0wTORSI[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#34  Postby devogue » Apr 06, 2011 5:34 pm

Mozart's Piano Concerti trump everything. :snooty:
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#35  Postby BrandySpears » Apr 06, 2011 7:35 pm

THWOTH wrote:...and yet the tenor sax is the king of instruments! Image

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlYdLfn_FKs[/youtube]
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Sorry but the organ accompaniment was ghastly. The oboe stop sounded sickly. Without a 16' pedal stop, the 8' tenor sax solo was in a lower register than the accompaniment - in other words - it was upside down.
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#36  Postby BrandySpears » Apr 06, 2011 7:50 pm

Blip wrote:I love this


Gorgeous! I love listening to countertenors.

Ave Maria misattributed to Giulio Caccini.

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#37  Postby THWOTH » Apr 06, 2011 8:26 pm

Truly sumptuous. :nod:

And again, please forgive me for the Handel/Sax débâcle, I thought it was soooo bad, in every respect, that I really had no choice but to post it here where it would be appreciated for what it was. I left a little message in the Youtube comments: HONK for Jesus. I thought that summed it up nicely. I think the organ part was actually a CD for congregational karaoke. I think that post, coming so soon after my controversial Beethoven blunder has done my reputation as a serious music lover no end of harm. Here, let me atone with Dutch contralto Aafje Heynis doing GFH justice...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35JzFH8Fdm4[/youtube]
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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#38  Postby tuco » Apr 06, 2011 9:04 pm

THWOTH wrote:I agree BS. :nod:

Now, please forgive me, but I have to confess that I can't stand Beethoven orchestral work. For the most part they seem like taking a club to the dominant cadence and hitting it again and again and again. Oh, I know he has his moments - but for me they are few and far between when it comes to his larger, 'Oo look at me, I'm Ludo and I'm being so daring mien Liebling' works.

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WTF is wrong with you I dunno ;) Well, Beethoven is not only a rocker but also the master of emotions. Can't expect him to be a pussy about it.

Do not like Baroque much, too much Götterfunken, too little Freude.

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#39  Postby THWOTH » Apr 07, 2011 9:06 pm

More glorious counter tenorisations from Andreas Scholl singing Dowland's 'Flow My Tears.' I've had a bit of a binge on him since Blip posted the Stabt Mater above. Thanks for that Blip! :thumbup:

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Re: Early, Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and Modern music

#40  Postby BrandySpears » Apr 07, 2011 9:12 pm

THWOTH wrote:Here, let me atone with Dutch contralto Aafje Heynis doing GFH justice...

Very nice!

This male soprano is very interesting:
Possessing a unique male soprano voice, Maniaci is noted for his unusual ability to sing into the upper soprano register without using falsetto. Most men who possess this ability have it as a result of a hormonal imbalance, but for some unknown reason, Maniaci's larynx did not develop causing his voice to not "break" in the usual manner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Maniaci

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