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Re: Hello, that was easy.

#121  Postby Cito di Pense » Nov 10, 2018 8:57 pm

scherado wrote:I was providing an example of a self-referential sentence.


Nope. You should have quit while you were ahead, with "this sentence is false".

Saying "I am incomprehensible" is not saying "this sentence is false". The former is just a sentence in the first person present tense of the verb "to be", and the latter is a self-referential sentence. If you really want to get your hands dirty in linguistics, you should get your business straight before you start. If you want to get your hands dirty with recursion, start with recursion.
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Re: Hello, that was easy.

#122  Postby scott1328 » Nov 10, 2018 10:04 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
scherado wrote:I was providing an example of a self-referential sentence.


Nope. You should have quit while you were ahead, with "this sentence is false".

Saying "I am incomprehensible" is not saying "this sentence is false". The former is just a sentence in the first person present tense of the verb "to be", and the latter is a self-referential sentence. If you really want to get your hands dirty in linguistics, you should get your business straight before you start. If you want to get your hands dirty with recursion, start with recursion.


Perhaps Scherado’s sentence is less comprehensible than you thought, Cito. What do yo suppose is the referant of the pronoun “I” in the sentence “I am incomprehensible”?
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Re: Hello, that was easy.

#123  Postby newolder » Nov 10, 2018 10:56 pm

Is it jamest? :ask:
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Re: Hello, that was easy.

#124  Postby scott1328 » Nov 10, 2018 11:01 pm

newolder wrote:Is it jamest? :ask:

Aren’t we all Jamest?
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Re: Hello, that was easy.

#125  Postby newolder » Nov 10, 2018 11:04 pm

scott1328 wrote:
newolder wrote:Is it jamest? :ask:

Aren’t we all Jamest?

Only the incomprehensible ones.
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Re: Hello, that was easy.

#126  Postby scherado » Nov 10, 2018 11:20 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:
scherado wrote:I was providing an example of a self-referential sentence.


Nope. You should have quit while you were ahead, with "this sentence is false".

Saying "I am incomprehensible" is not saying "this sentence is false". ....

Oh? Did you comprehend my sentence?
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Re: Hello, that was easy.

#127  Postby Cito di Pense » Nov 11, 2018 7:33 am

scott1328 wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
scherado wrote:I was providing an example of a self-referential sentence.


Nope. You should have quit while you were ahead, with "this sentence is false".

Saying "I am incomprehensible" is not saying "this sentence is false". The former is just a sentence in the first person present tense of the verb "to be", and the latter is a self-referential sentence. If you really want to get your hands dirty in linguistics, you should get your business straight before you start. If you want to get your hands dirty with recursion, start with recursion.


Perhaps Scherado’s sentence is less comprehensible than you thought, Cito.


That's a good point, but consider the author. I hope this doesn't get us all wound up in determining the origins of anything. Sounds like another multiverse conversation. Il n'y a pas de hors-texte.

scherado wrote:
Cito di Pense wrote:
scherado wrote:I was providing an example of a self-referential sentence.


Nope. You should have quit while you were ahead, with "this sentence is false".

Saying "I am incomprehensible" is not saying "this sentence is false". ....

Oh? Did you comprehend my sentence?


That one-week sentence for failing to appear? Hello, that was easy.
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