40 deaths in right wing terrorist attack

The_Piper · **#61** by **The_Piper** » Mar 17, 2019 3:16 am

That kid definitely has the fine art of egg-laden dope slaps mastered.

Macdoc · **#62** by **Macdoc** » Mar 17, 2019 6:43 am

I guess when you grow up in Afghanistan .....no fear.

When gunman advanced on New Zealand mosque, this man ran at him

Abdul Aziz, 48, is being hailed as a hero for preventing more deaths

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Latef Alabi, the Linwood mosque's acting imam, said the death toll would have been far higher at the Linwood mosque if it wasn't for Aziz.

Alabi said he heard a voice outside the mosque at about 1:55 p.m. and stopped the prayer he was leading and peeked out the window. He saw a man in black military-style gear and a helmet holding a large gun, and assumed it was a police officer. Then he saw two bodies and heard the gunman yelling obscenities.

'He went after him'

"I realized this is something else. This is a killer," he said.

He yelled at the congregation of more than 80 to get down. They hesitated. A shot rang out, a window shattered and a body fell, and people began to realize it was for real.

"Then this brother came over. He went after him, and he managed to overpower him, and that's how we were saved," Alabi said, referring to Aziz. "Otherwise, if he managed to come into the mosque, then we would all probably be gone."

Aziz said as he ran outside screaming, he was hoping to distract the attacker. He said the gunman ran back to his car to get another gun, and Aziz hurled the credit card machine at him.

'I just got the gun and threw it'

He said he could hear his two youngest sons, aged 11 and 5, urging him to come back inside.

The gunman returned, firing. Aziz said he ran, weaving through cars parked in the driveway, which prevented the gunman from getting a clean shot. Then Aziz spotted a gun the gunman had abandoned and picked it up, pointed it and squeezed the trigger. It was empty.

He said the gunman ran back to the car for a second time, likely to grab yet another weapon.

"He gets into his car and I just got the gun and threw it on his window like an arrow and blasted his window," he said.

'That's why he got scared'

The windshield shattered: "That's why he got scared."

He said the gunman was cursing at him, yelling that he was going to kill them all. But he drove away and Aziz said he chased the car down the street to a red light, before it made a U-turn and sped away. Online videos indicate police officers managed to force the car from the road and drag out the suspect soon after.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5054009

:clap:

Alan C · **#63** by **Alan C** » Mar 17, 2019 7:28 am

Apparently the egg assassin was quoted as saying, when the cops showed up while he was pinned to the ground, [paraphrasing] "Ah, here comes the bacon to go with the egg". The cops laughed it off.

Hermit · **#64** by **Hermit** » Mar 17, 2019 8:04 am

Two days ago Kate Ahmad started a petition at change org to remove Fraser Anning from parliament. She realised that this cannot happen because it is unconstitutional, but she only wanted to send out a strong message that vile hate speech will not be condoned. In Anning's maiden speech he proposed a plebiscite to "the immigration problem", pointedly labelling it "the final solution". Dog-whistling at its most unmistakeable and underhanded, I think. Yesterday he blamed New Zealand’s immigration policy for the Christchurch mosque terror attack.

The petition has broken the Australian record a few hours after it went online. When I signed it a couple of hours ago it had been signed by 823,000 people. The tally exceeds 922,000 right now.

ronmcd · **#65** by **ronmcd** » Mar 17, 2019 9:18 am

Macdoc wrote:I guess when you grow up in Afghanistan .....no fear.

Wow. How many people did this man save.

Macdoc · **#66** by **Macdoc** » Mar 17, 2019 9:23 am

Well potentially everyone that was in that Mosque and whoever he intended to attack next. I don't think the asshole expected any push back. He had IEDs and lots more weapons and ammo.
The guy gave the cops time to get there and I thought the way they pinned the car up on the curb was clever.

Some more details emerging of Aziz action in diverting the shooter.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-newz ... SKCN1QY07V

and ouch

Aziz said four of his children were with him at the mosque when the attack occurred.

felltoearth · **#67** by **felltoearth** » Mar 17, 2019 12:51 pm

Macdoc wrote:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5054009

Wrong article link posted

Alan C · **#68** by **Alan C** » Mar 18, 2019 8:07 am

He donating the majority of money donated to him to victim's families;

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quas · **#69** by **quas** » Mar 18, 2019 11:35 am

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/indonesia/comm ... ndonesian/

Lilik Abdul Hamid was an Indonesian Muslim who was in that mosque that day. He died and Indonesians flogged to his FB only to find out that this guy was a prolific poster of hateful religious/political messages all over his FB. His FB page had been taken down recently, probably due to family/friends request.

[Translation: "stay in their lane" in English it should be "know their place" - as in "behave in a way that shows that you know what your social position is and which people are more important than you." So, Lilik believed that the non-Muslim majority shouldn't have and shouldn't demand for equal rights in Indonesia (a Muslim majority country). No churches should be allowed, no freedom of religion for non-Muslims, etc.]

felltoearth · **#70** by **felltoearth** » Mar 18, 2019 1:28 pm

And? He deserved to die at the hands of a nutjob for that opinion?

Keep It Real · **#71** by **Keep It Real** » Mar 18, 2019 2:27 pm

Right wing loony killing right wing loonies = right wing terrorist attack? White supremacist terrorist attack more like.

quas · **#72** by **quas** » Mar 18, 2019 4:13 pm

felltoearth wrote:And? He deserved to die at the hands of a nutjob for that opinion?

Christians want to build churches, whereas people like him think that churches should be shut down forcefully. There have been clashes and violent confrontations from that alone. Not to mention the bomb attacks on churches. Maybe that doesn't sound severe enough for you. He has probably posted worse things. I can't know for sure since he wasn't in my FB circle, so I can't read his private posts. But guys like him in my FB circle have posted things like demanding the wealth and assets of Christians to be forcefully seized and distributed among Muslims. These things require genocide to pull off, not just the bombing of a dozen churches. Whether he deserved to die or not doesn't concern me (I don't find think such judgement are interesting enough for me to make), I just wonder whether Connolly would have been less brazen towards Anning had Connolly himself read the FB posts of Muslims or at least less inclined to donate money to Muslims like Lilik.

felltoearth · **#73** by **felltoearth** » Mar 18, 2019 6:24 pm

aban57 · **#74** by **aban57** » Mar 18, 2019 6:27 pm

quas wrote: He has probably posted worse things.

This alone disqualifies you from being taken seriously.

Willie71 · **#75** by **Willie71** » Mar 18, 2019 9:11 pm

Macdoc wrote:I guess when you grow up in Afghanistan .....no fear.

When gunman advanced on New Zealand mosque, this man ran at him

Abdul Aziz, 48, is being hailed as a hero for preventing more deaths

snip

Latef Alabi, the Linwood mosque's acting imam, said the death toll would have been far higher at the Linwood mosque if it wasn't for Aziz.

Alabi said he heard a voice outside the mosque at about 1:55 p.m. and stopped the prayer he was leading and peeked out the window. He saw a man in black military-style gear and a helmet holding a large gun, and assumed it was a police officer. Then he saw two bodies and heard the gunman yelling obscenities.

'He went after him'

"I realized this is something else. This is a killer," he said.

He yelled at the congregation of more than 80 to get down. They hesitated. A shot rang out, a window shattered and a body fell, and people began to realize it was for real.

"Then this brother came over. He went after him, and he managed to overpower him, and that's how we were saved," Alabi said, referring to Aziz. "Otherwise, if he managed to come into the mosque, then we would all probably be gone."

Aziz said as he ran outside screaming, he was hoping to distract the attacker. He said the gunman ran back to his car to get another gun, and Aziz hurled the credit card machine at him.

'I just got the gun and threw it'

He said he could hear his two youngest sons, aged 11 and 5, urging him to come back inside.

The gunman returned, firing. Aziz said he ran, weaving through cars parked in the driveway, which prevented the gunman from getting a clean shot. Then Aziz spotted a gun the gunman had abandoned and picked it up, pointed it and squeezed the trigger. It was empty.

He said the gunman ran back to the car for a second time, likely to grab yet another weapon.

"He gets into his car and I just got the gun and threw it on his window like an arrow and blasted his window," he said.

'That's why he got scared'

The windshield shattered: "That's why he got scared."

He said the gunman was cursing at him, yelling that he was going to kill them all. But he drove away and Aziz said he chased the car down the street to a red light, before it made a U-turn and sped away. Online videos indicate police officers managed to force the car from the road and drag out the suspect soon after.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5054009

Person of the year.

quas · **#76** by **quas** » Mar 19, 2019 2:19 am

aban57 wrote:
quas wrote: He has probably posted worse things.

This alone disqualifies you from being taken seriously.

You want me to make things up for you? I don't do that.

I can tell you that he probably posted a lot of vile hateful shit, because I have lots of guys like him in my FB circle. If you are in a FB/WA/Telegram group, then you know what that's like. People sharing -posting and reposting- the same messages over and over. After a while, you see a pattern and you can predict the sort of messages that will be posted there. That's why I don't need to access all his private/deleted FB chats to know his most private thoughts. It's like if a person has been a member of a Mexican drug cartel for 10 years, then it's a safe bet to DEDUCE that that guy has probably abducted and killed at least one person, even if you haven't personally witnessed him doing that.

Fallible · **#77** by **Fallible** » Mar 19, 2019 8:27 am

So what?

Hermit · **#78** by **Hermit** » Mar 19, 2019 8:56 am

quas wrote:
felltoearth wrote:I just wonder whether Connolly would have been less brazen towards Anning had Connolly himself read the FB posts of Muslims...

Two wrongs don't make a right.

quas wrote:
felltoearth wrote:...or at least less inclined to donate money to Muslims like Lilik.

No, he does not. Connolly intends to give most of the money raised to the Christchurch victims. One of them was a rabidly militant Muslim. Presumably he means family members of those who were killed or injured. How many of them do you think are also rabidly militant Muslims?

juju7 · **#79** by **juju7** » Mar 19, 2019 9:17 am

Hermit wrote:
quas wrote:
felltoearth wrote:I just wonder whether Connolly would have been less brazen towards Anning had Connolly himself read the FB posts of Muslims...

Two wrongs don't make a right.

quas wrote:
felltoearth wrote:...or at least less inclined to donate money to Muslims like Lilik.

No, he does not. Connolly intends to give most of the money raised to the Christchurch victims. One of them was a rabidly militant Muslim. Presumably he means family members of those who were killed or injured. How many of them do you think are also rabidly militant Muslims?

1 in 80?

Hermit · **#80** by **Hermit** » Mar 19, 2019 10:06 am

juju7 wrote:
Hermit wrote:
quas wrote:I just wonder whether Connolly would have been less brazen towards Anning had Connolly himself read the FB posts of Muslims...

Two wrongs don't make a right.
Hermit wrote:
quas wrote:...or at least less inclined to donate money to Muslims like Lilik.
No, he does not. Connolly intends to give most of the money raised to the Christchurch victims. One of them was a rabidly militant Muslim. Presumably he means family members of those who were killed or injured. How many of them do you think are also rabidly militant Muslims?

1 in 80?

First of all, apologies to felltoearth for having fucked up the quote tags. What my previous post attributed to him was actually written by quas. Fixed now.

On to how many militant Muslims there are among the families of the killed or injured victims: Regardless of whether the ratio is 1 in 80 or 1 in 80,000, Will Connolly's intent is not to donate money to Muslims like Lilik. Quas's implication that Connolly is inclined to support Islamic militancy - let alone terrorism - via donation is libellous. He wants to help the families of the killed or injured victims.

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