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AGW ?? the fuel companies cave ...in court.

#1  Postby Macdoc » Apr 09, 2018 8:34 pm

Fossil fuels are the problem, say fossil fuel companies being sued
By Nathanael Johnson on Mar 21, 2018

Big Oil and the cities suing them in federal court agreed on at least one thing on Wednesday: Human-made climate change is real.

In the country’s first court hearing on the science behind climate change, a lawyer for Chevron, Theodore Boutrous Jr., said the oil company accepts the scientific consensus. He quoted chapter and verse from the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the thousands of scientists assembled by the United Nations to figure out exactly what’s going on. “From Chevron’s perspective, there is no debate about the science of climate change,” Boutrous said.

Oil companies have recently started saying they’re on the side of science, but they’ve never said it so clearly in court.



but now they are trying to move the responsibility to the consumer

San Francisco and Oakland are suing BP, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil, and Shell, arguing that the corporations that profit from fossil fuels should pay for the seawalls and pumps needed to protect them from rising tides. But Boutrous, the only oil company lawyer to speak at the hearing, didn’t accept blame, pointing the finger instead at the people who burned the fossil fuels. In other words, oil doesn’t cause climate change. People burning oil cause climate change.

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https://grist.org/article/fossil-fuels- ... eing-sued/

People smoking cigarettes caused their cancer....didn't work out for Big Tobacco....

Phase two of the war will be what to do about it.....as Rex Tillerson said ...it's an engineering problem ....and that's true.
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#2  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Apr 09, 2018 8:41 pm

how many fake studies do hey have on their account?
* my (modified) emphasis ( or 'interpretation' )

when you chop off your neighbours head and use it as a vase, you can call it 'culture'.
it's called civilisation is when this gets you jailed for the rest of your live.
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#3  Postby Teague » Apr 16, 2018 10:34 am

errrr.... they covered it up for 10 years and then did their best to deny it and lobbied gov't so the blame is on them. Make them use all of their profits to pay for the repair costs.
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#4  Postby aban57 » Apr 16, 2018 10:45 am

Teague wrote:errrr.... they covered it up for 10 years and then did their best to deny it and lobbied gov't so the blame is on them. Make them use all of their profits to pay for the repair costs.


10 years ? Try 30.
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#5  Postby Teague » Apr 16, 2018 10:57 am

aban57 wrote:
Teague wrote:errrr.... they covered it up for 10 years and then did their best to deny it and lobbied gov't so the blame is on them. Make them use all of their profits to pay for the repair costs.


10 years ? Try 30.


No, I mean they covered it up for 10 years prior to anyone knowing about it

Exxon Knew about Climate Change almost 40 years ago

A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... years-ago/


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#6  Postby Rumraket » Apr 16, 2018 1:23 pm

So after having tried to subvert the scientific consensus and misinform consumers for decades, with the result that consumers believed the misinformation and continued to burn fossil fuels, they now want to blame consumers for being mislead by their lies?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAhahahaha. There is no end to the hypocricy of these companies. They are a-moral money-making machines. Machines don't care about ethics, humans, life, or anything else. They are just programmed automatons that produce goods and try to maximize profits.
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#7  Postby Macdoc » Apr 16, 2018 3:25 pm

And we can expect many more messy never ending battles like this

25-year legal battle

The battle began in 1993 when Texaco, which was acquired by Chevron in 2001, was accused by Ecuadorian villagers of water and soil contamination caused by years oil-drilling activities.

The Ecuadorian Provincial Court awarded the villagers $18.2 billion US judgment in 2011. That amount was later reduced to $9.5 billion US in 2013.


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