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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#181  Postby laklak » Oct 29, 2019 7:27 pm

Apparently they got his likely successor Abu Hasan al-Muhajir too.

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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#182  Postby Ironclad » Oct 29, 2019 10:47 pm

The Kurds stole his underpants, they claim. Not something I'd advertise on international TV.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#183  Postby Keep It Real » Oct 29, 2019 10:53 pm

He had his name sewn into his underpants?
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#184  Postby kiore » Oct 30, 2019 1:55 am


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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#185  Postby scott1328 » Nov 06, 2019 7:12 pm

Phillip Johnson, creationist and liar for Jesus ceased lying on 11/2. Yay!
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#186  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 06, 2019 7:27 pm

He had a massive impact on the modern Creationism movement - I don't doubt that he's responsible for a significant percentage of the Creationist English speaking world's certainty in their loony anti-science/reality belief system, and they almost all use one or more of his arguments albeit less capably.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#187  Postby Blip » Nov 08, 2019 8:36 am


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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#188  Postby Calilasseia » Nov 08, 2019 9:17 am

scott1328 wrote:Phillip Johnson, creationist and liar for Jesus ceased lying on 11/2. Yay!
https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent ... 9-aged-79/


Another lying sack of shit we can be glad to be rid of. The damage this slimeball inflicted upon American science education will take decades to undo, even if the US education system manages to avoid being corrupted and perverted by this twat's wingnut followers throughout that period.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#189  Postby Rumraket » Nov 08, 2019 5:28 pm

Spearthrower wrote:He had a massive impact on the modern Creationism movement - I don't doubt that he's responsible for a significant percentage of the Creationist English speaking world's certainty in their loony anti-science/reality belief system, and they almost all use one or more of his arguments albeit less capably.

True enough I suppose. Though it has to be said that much of the Intelligent Design output is just re-labeled classic creationism. They play better dress up in the ID tent, but they're still just creationists.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#190  Postby TopCat » Nov 08, 2019 6:12 pm

Rumraket wrote:Though it has to be said that much of the Intelligent Design output is just re-labeled classic creationism.

Very true, but I think the IDers are much worse than the run-of-the-mill creationists.

The Hams and Hovinds of this world are mostly just funny, in an eye-rolling way - barely more credible than flat earthers - but the IDers (Behe, Meyer, Dembski, Lennox et al) are much worse, as they're able to drape a lot of sciency-sounding words around their output, which fool many a genuine but uneducated lay person.

They are also often much, much better debaters than actual scientists, as they've honed their patter to perfection, and they cunningly misrepresent complex topics, supporting their position by creating the illusion of simplicity, again attractive to lay people.

I think they're much more dangerous, in reality.

That said, some ID stuff I came across recently prompted me to read this book by Donald Prothero. I'm about half way through it and it's fascinating.

Among other things, I've learned a little about cladistics so far, and discovered that the Cambrian Explosion, wasn't. It's a book that will need reading a second time.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#191  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 08, 2019 6:37 pm

Rumraket wrote:
True enough I suppose. Though it has to be said that much of the Intelligent Design output is just re-labeled classic creationism. They play better dress up in the ID tent, but they're still just creationists.


Undoubtedly the beliefs were the same, but the strategy for expounding those beliefs changed dramatically with ID.


It was necessary to put aside all questions of biblical interpretation or veracity and to concentrate entirely on the claims of Darwinism...

What was needed was to press questions that are legitimated within the context of mainstream academic thinking, questions about what has been proved about evolution and what has merely been assumed.


ID is a wedge strategy - attack science but not from a Christian perspective, make evolution a belief system but not from a Christian perspective, then cry foul that the religion of evolution can be taught in schools but Christianity can't. It was all about the veneer - it still is! Uncommon Descent is a perfect example - they take pains to pretend that they're all invested in the scientific truth, but really they're all just Christian Creationists trying to overturn empirical knowledge in favour of their inherited belief system.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#192  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 04, 2020 4:51 pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50991908

Derek Acorah, TV medium, dies aged 69


Con-artist dies, gets a headline on the BBC.

That's a symptom.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#193  Postby aufbahrung » Jan 04, 2020 6:00 pm

Spearthrower wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50991908

Derek Acorah, TV medium, dies aged 69


Con-artist dies, gets a headline on the BBC.

That's a symptom.


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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#194  Postby Hermit » Jan 04, 2020 6:13 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50991908

Derek Acorah, TV medium, dies aged 69


Con-artist dies, gets a headline on the BBC.

That's a symptom.

Death sentence knowing the day you'll die advance. Have some pity.

He didn't know. Acorah was a charlatan. FFS, he was even too much of a fraud for Yvette Fielding, presenter and executive producer of Most Haunted, so she sacked him, saying: "We tell people everything is real, then it turns out he was a fake, so he had to go."

And Scrumple, in case you missed the clip newolder posted a few hours earlier, wherein Acorah's coldreading fails are so obvious, even his audience finishes up shaking their heads at them, here it is again:

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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#195  Postby Fallible » Jan 04, 2020 6:15 pm

I met him once. As one might expect, shifty. Still, I remain 100% on my record of not being happy about the death of another human.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#196  Postby noncredo » Jan 06, 2020 6:36 pm

Not really world changing, but my old Line 6 Spider died recently. I replaced it with a Boss Katana...good riddance Line 6.
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Re: And Good Fucking Riddance

#197  Postby felltoearth » Jan 06, 2020 10:37 pm

noncredo wrote:Not really world changing, but my old Line 6 Spider died recently. I replaced it with a Boss Katana...good riddance Line 6.


I'm sorry for your loss...

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