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Australian Christian Lobby has safe sex ad banned

#1  Postby keypad5 » Jun 01, 2011 1:31 am

HIV campaigners are outraged a safe sex promotion featuring a fully clothed, hugging gay couple has been pulled from Queensland bus shelters.

The Queensland Association for Healthy Communities launched its "Rip and Roll" advertisements a week ago and yesterday learned they were being scrapped after about 30 complaints.

The adverts feature a black and white image of a gay couple embracing, holding an unopened red condom packet.
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It includes the website address and hotline for Healthy Communities, which has been receiving state government funding for sexual health promotion since 1988.

Adshel, the company that provides advertising for Brisbane's bus shelters; Goa Billboards; and the Advertising Standards Bureau were targeted in an orchestrated campaign by the Australian Christian Lobby.

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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/queensland/gay-sa ... 1ff7u.html


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Christians' 'right' to be offended trumps health message.

Although, to be honest, I think most Christians in Australia wouldn't give a shit about this ad. The Australian Christian Lobby, however, is like the USA's Catholic League. They're a bunch of theocratic, bigoted windbags who still live in the 1950s.

The ACL Vision

The vision of the Australian Christian Lobby is to see Christian principles and ethics accepted and influencing the way we are governed, do business and relate to each other as a community.

The ACL aims to foster a more compassionate, just and moral society by seeking to have the positive public contributions of the Christian faith reflected in the political life of the nation.

The ACL, established in 1995, operates in the Federal Parliament, and in all the State and Territory Parliaments, and is neither party partisan nor denominationally-aligned.

The ACL does not seek to be the peak political voice for the church, but to be a professional witness to Christ in the Australian Parliaments which allows for the voice of the church and individual Christians to be more respectfully received in the public square.

http://australianchristianlobby.org.au/about-acl/

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Re: Australian Christian Lobby has safe sex ad banned

#2  Postby j.mills » Jun 01, 2011 2:37 am

Note that the "Advertising Standards Bureau chief executive Fiona Jolly said the organisation had no part in the removal of the advertisements", and "Brisbane City Council, which owns the bus stop panels, declined to comment on the removal of the advertisements, saying “the council had no involvement in this matter”." So the removal is entirely the decision of the advertising company, Adshel, who say: “Adshel does not take a position regarding the views or position of various community groups.” Yet by removing the ad they are doing exactly that.

What are they afraid of, that homophobes are going to boycott bus shelters? :roll:
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Re: Australian Christian Lobby has safe sex ad banned

#4  Postby keypad5 » Jun 01, 2011 3:07 am

j.mills wrote:Note that the "Advertising Standards Bureau chief executive Fiona Jolly said the organisation had no part in the removal of the advertisements", and "Brisbane City Council, which owns the bus stop panels, declined to comment on the removal of the advertisements, saying “the council had no involvement in this matter”." So the removal is entirely the decision of the advertising company, Adshel, who say: “Adshel does not take a position regarding the views or position of various community groups.” Yet by removing the ad they are doing exactly that.

What are they afraid of, that homophobes are going to boycott bus shelters? :roll:


From what I understand, Adshel will now be fielding several hundred complaints about the removal of the ads. So we'll see if their actions are being directed by public opinion or by political/religious pressures.



And from the ACL:

MR: People power wins in removing offending ads
Posted by Katherine Spackman, PR Officer on May 31st, 2011

MEDIA RELEASE

For release: May 31, 2011

The Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) says a grass-roots campaign has been successful in removing sexualised advertising at Brisbane bus shelters.

ACL’s Queensland State Director Wendy Francis has applauded the decision of Adshel, the provider of advertising at bus shelters, to remove condom advertisement targeting homosexual men.

The ads were part of a marketing campaign agency Queensland Association for Healthy Communities (QAHC), which receives state government funding.

“The ad featured two men in an act of foreplay with a large condom pictured in the left hand corner and the slogan ‘RIP&ROLL’ as well as the wording ‘A safe sex message from healthy communities’,” Mrs Francis said.

Ms Francis said it went against prevailing community standards to introduce sexuality to young children through forced exposure in public.

“A massive groundswell of people power has won the day when it comes to the bus shelters which have been pulled down over night,” she said.

However, Mrs Francis called for GOA Billboards to remove the same offending ads on billboards which remained on busy roads, such as a billboard on an intersection on Sandgate road.

A billboard on Sandgate Road

“Complaints have been lodged to the Advertising Standards Bureau (ASB) and General Outdoor Advertising (GOA) billboards,” she said.

“We are disappointed with the response of GOA billboards in not removing the billboards. The company said it won’t remove the advertising unless directed by ASB.”

http://australianchristianlobby.org.au/ ... nding-ads/

Good on GOA Billboards for not bowing to these cronies. It's religionists like these who will deny sexual health education to our youth and simultaneously demonise homosexuals as spreaders of HIV. :insane:

And Adshel, if I recall correctly, were the organisation that wouldn't run the atheist bus ads in Sydney. :think: (I'll hunt for a source later.)
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#5  Postby byofrcs » Jun 01, 2011 4:19 am

APN Outdoor dropped the Atheist bus adverts.

Adshel is 49% owned by Clear Channel and 51% by APN Outdoor.
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#6  Postby Mr.Samsa » Jun 01, 2011 4:27 am

“The ad featured two men in an act of foreplay with a large condom pictured in the left hand corner and the slogan ‘RIP&ROLL’ as well as the wording ‘A safe sex message from healthy communities’,” Mrs Francis said.


I completely agree with this. I don't believe in exposing children to images of two fully clothed men with their arms around each other. It's clearly an act of foreplay, and the subtle promotion of safe-sex which could save hundreds (thousands?) of lives is no excuse for showing two fully clothed men barely touching each other.

Thank god we can return now to our family-friendly billboard images.

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#7  Postby tactik » Jun 01, 2011 4:57 am

Email Sent.

I just wanted to let you know that I am extremely disappointed in your decision to remove the "rip & roll" advertising from your bus shelters in Queensland. These ads depict two fully-clothed gay men holding an unopened condom packet.
As a safe-sex promotion and aesthetically, nothing could be more mundane and more necessary.

I have read that the Advertising Standards Bureau had no part in the removal of the advertisements, and that Brisbane City Council has similarly stated that it had "no involvement in this matter”.

So, it seems that the removal is entirely the decision of Adshel... even though you yourselves state that "Adshel does not take a position regarding the views or position of various community groups.”
By removing the adverts, you are doing just the opposite.
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#8  Postby Ihavenofingerprints » Jun 01, 2011 5:05 am

30 complaints? It looks like the whole ACL was out in Force. Seriously, 30 complaints? Do they not expect that at least 30 of Brisbane's homophobes would complain?

Anyway...

The Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) says a grass-roots campaign has been successful in removing sexualised advertising at Brisbane bus shelters.


Well done! The Billboard perfectly complied with Australian law, but it didn't comply with the ACLs stone age ethics. Obviously the right decision was to take it down. Free speech wins again! (ACL free speech that is, where the ACL can say "that billboard offends me take it down", and if it doesn't get taken down religious freedom is being trampled upon.)

ACL’s Queensland State Director Wendy Francis has applauded the decision of Adshel, the provider of advertising at bus shelters, to remove condom advertisement targeting homosexual men.


How many kids too young to see this picture catch the bus by themselves anyway? If they do, they are with their parents who can easily shelter their kids eyes (if they are that stupid).

The ads were part of a marketing campaign agency Queensland Association for Healthy Communities (QAHC), which receives state government funding.


Yea, FROM TAX-FUNDS THAT THE RELIGIOUS ORGANISATIONS WHO FUND YOUR BUNCH OF LUNATICS DON'T PAY A CENT OF. What makes you think you get a say in where other peoples money goes?

“The ad featured two men in an act of foreplay with a large condom pictured in the left hand corner and the slogan ‘RIP&ROLL’ as well as the wording ‘A safe sex message from healthy communities’,” Mrs Francis said.


So what? I've seen more graphic beer commercials.

Ms Francis said it went against prevailing community standards to introduce sexuality to young children through forced exposure in public.


These adverts were at a BUS STOP. Notorious places for children to be hanging around aye? 1. The advert complies with the law and can be placed anywhere. 2. They chose a place where only adults will take notice and understand what the ad means. 3. If parents object to advertising that abides by the guidelines/laws, then it is their job to protect their children from roaming the train stations and bus stops alone. Which is an incredibly easy task if you ask me.

“A massive groundswell of people power has won the day when it comes to the bus shelters which have been pulled down over night,” she said.


30 complaints, thats fuck all. The ads were taken down for no good reason, this is an injustice for freedom of speech.

However, Mrs Francis called for GOA Billboards to remove the same offending ads on billboards which remained on busy roads, such as a billboard on an intersection on Sandgate road.


Now children are driving by themselves? If you're offended by this poster, and you have children in the car, drive down another street. The world doesn't revolve around your stone age ethics. There was no offending billboard, it didn't break any law.

“Complaints have been lodged to the Advertising Standards Bureau (ASB) and General Outdoor Advertising (GOA) billboards,” she said.

“We are disappointed with the response of GOA billboards in not removing the billboards. The company said it won’t remove the advertising unless directed by ASB.”


Point out which guideline the billboard broke, then complain. Don't complain and just hope the rules will be bent for you're own special request. The ACL is clearly against freedom of speech, in fact they are against all freedom. Please never bother complaining that religious freedom in Australia is being trampled on ever again, because the last thing you guys want is freedom. So fuck off.


I wonder if this comment will make it. edit: ahhahaha their site is down.
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#9  Postby AndreD » Jun 01, 2011 8:49 am

They're going back up. Huzzah!

ABC News wrote:Ad company Adshel has reinstated a safe sex campaign for gay couples after it became clear a barrage of complaints about the ads were orchestrated by the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL).

The bus shelter poster campaign spruiking the message "rip and roll", features a gay couple hugging while holding a condom packet.

The offending ads were taken down from around Brisbane yesterday after Adshel, Brisbane City Council and the Advertising Standards Bureau received 30 complaints about the ads.

But the ads' removal also caused an uproar on social media sites, with many furious the posters were brought down.

In a statement issued this afternoon, Adshel said many of the complaints were part of an ACL campaign, and that it has reinstated the ads.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... ion=justin
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#10  Postby DoctorE » Jun 01, 2011 8:52 am

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#11  Postby mrjonno » Jun 01, 2011 9:15 am

Havent quite got the political activity of christians in Australia compared to the UK,US, Canada etc.

It looks obviously far weaker than in the US but it still seems a lot more powerful a lobby than in the UK. Do politicans ever get asked about their religious views in Australia?. It generally would be considered to even ask here
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#12  Postby Rome Existed » Jun 01, 2011 9:20 am

mrjonno wrote:Havent quite got the political activity of christians in Australia compared to the UK,US, Canada etc.

It looks obviously far weaker than in the US but it still seems a lot more powerful a lobby than in the UK. Do politicans ever get asked about their religious views in Australia?. It generally would be considered to even ask here


We have a long history, in Australian terms, of openly atheist/agnostic politicians. It seems though that the more secular/atheist Australian society is becoming the harder religious groups push their agendas.
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#13  Postby Rome Existed » Jun 01, 2011 9:25 am

I love how the ACL was proud of their 30 complaints that got it taken down.

I wonder how they feel now that TENS OF THOUSANDS of people complained that it was taken down?
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#14  Postby Ihavenofingerprints » Jun 01, 2011 9:42 am

mrjonno wrote:Havent quite got the political activity of christians in Australia compared to the UK,US, Canada etc.

It looks obviously far weaker than in the US but it still seems a lot more powerful a lobby than in the UK. Do politicans ever get asked about their religious views in Australia?. It generally would be considered to even ask here


It's kind of an irrelevant point for most people (i think). Politicians do get asked, but generally only when the issue being discussed is a religious one. Julia Gillard isn't religious but gets a lot of the Christian vote because she panders to them all the time. So party polices probably have more of an impact than an individual candidates religious views.

Religious organisations don't have a huge impact on the government (as a whole), but they have an extremely over inflated say in some issues and are the main opposition to many pieces of legislation that keep getting shut down such as:

- Stem Cell Research (in WA anyway)
- Euthanasia
- Gay Marriage
- And any opposition to the government funding school chaplaincy programs or religious instruction classes is generally shot down because religious organisations are in bed with the government.

They are consulted for lots of social issues for no good reason really. But we don't have it nearly as bad as the US, where these groups are trying to get creationism taught in science classes.
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#15  Postby Rome Existed » Jun 01, 2011 9:53 am

In QLD it's illegal to open a lot of businesses on Christian holidays. Went out a few years ago on a Thursday and was told that the club would be shutting before midnight because it couldn't legally remain open past midnight because that was Good Friday. Like, wtf? If you're a Christian and you don't want to go out drinking on Good Friday stay the fuck home, but don't force the rest of us to stay home!
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#16  Postby keypad5 » Jun 01, 2011 10:31 am

byofrcs wrote:APN Outdoor dropped the Atheist bus adverts.

Adshel is 49% owned by Clear Channel and 51% by APN Outdoor.

Ah, yes, APN Outdoor. I got them mixed up. But I didn't know about the ownership connection. :think:

AndreD wrote:They're going back up. Huzzah!

ABC News wrote:Ad company Adshel has reinstated a safe sex campaign for gay couples after it became clear a barrage of complaints about the ads were orchestrated by the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL).

The bus shelter poster campaign spruiking the message "rip and roll", features a gay couple hugging while holding a condom packet.

The offending ads were taken down from around Brisbane yesterday after Adshel, Brisbane City Council and the Advertising Standards Bureau received 30 complaints about the ads.

But the ads' removal also caused an uproar on social media sites, with many furious the posters were brought down.

In a statement issued this afternoon, Adshel said many of the complaints were part of an ACL campaign, and that it has reinstated the ads.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 ... ion=justin

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#17  Postby lordshipmayhem » Jun 01, 2011 9:28 pm

Ihavenofingerprints wrote:30 complaints? It looks like the whole ACL was out in Forcefarce.

FIFY. :lol:
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#18  Postby sennekuyl » Jun 01, 2011 9:53 pm

If that is foreplay, I'm glad I'm not having sex with her.
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#19  Postby Peter Brown » Jun 02, 2011 12:05 am

Perhaps a compromise for the Christians?
Rewording the ad to; ‘you gays are all sinners going to hell with AIDS if you don’t use a condom’ might not offend religious sensitivities?
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#20  Postby Peter Brown » Jun 02, 2011 12:07 am

nm the Pope would object as condoms causes AIDS :/
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