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Re: Brexit

#7121  Postby Sendraks » Apr 11, 2019 2:51 pm

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Who would want this job in the current circumstances? , you would have to be utterly nuts


So pretty much any member of the ERG then.
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Re: Brexit

#7122  Postby ronmcd » Apr 11, 2019 5:33 pm

Sendraks wrote:
mrjonno wrote:

Who would want this job in the current circumstances? , you would have to be utterly nuts


So pretty much any member of the ERG then.

Also, the candidates during the last leadership election all wanted it regardless of the likely horrors of trying to implement brexit.

To paraphrase Billy Connolly, the desire to be a politician a Tory PM should bar you for life from ever becoming one.
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Re: Brexit

#7123  Postby newolder » Apr 11, 2019 6:50 pm

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Re: Brexit

#7124  Postby minininja » Apr 11, 2019 7:51 pm

newolder wrote:Image

Government should send one of those through every letterbox in the UK and have done with it.
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Re: Brexit

#7125  Postby newolder » Apr 11, 2019 7:57 pm

^ Yep, and it would be cheaper than some recent alternative measures:
UK stands down 6,000 no-deal Brexit staff - after spending £1.5bn

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Re: Brexit

#7126  Postby GrahamH » Apr 12, 2019 11:16 am

newolder wrote:^ Yep, and it would be cheaper than some recent alternative measures:
UK stands down 6,000 no-deal Brexit staff - after spending £1.5bn

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Thanks for posting that.

I wonder...

Is that a hint at a "no Brexit" destination with no need of those preparations?

Are the preparations for "no deal" complete?

Is it more kicking the can down the road so that as October nears the UK will once again be in a panic if the WA remains untennable?

Or maybe it's blind optimism that opinions will u-turn in the next few weeks now that the pressure is off.

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Re: Brexit

#7127  Postby ronmcd » Apr 12, 2019 5:05 pm

GrahamH wrote:
Is that a hint at a "no Brexit" destination with no need of those preparations?

Are the preparations for "no deal" complete?

Is it more kicking the can down the road so that as October nears the UK will once again be in a panic if the WA remains untennable?

Or maybe it's blind optimism that opinions will u-turn in the next few weeks now that the pressure is off.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
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Re: Brexit

#7128  Postby Sendraks » Apr 12, 2019 7:52 pm

GrahamH wrote:

I wonder...

Is that a hint at a "no Brexit" destination with no need of those preparations?

Are the preparations for "no deal" complete?

Is it more kicking the can down the road so that as October nears the UK will once again be in a panic if the WA remains untennable?

Or maybe it's blind optimism that opinions will u-turn in the next few weeks now that the pressure is off.

:scratch:


1 -Nope. Its just that the operational staff necessary for a no deal scenario are not needed at this moment in time.

2 - Not even close. We are nowhere near the legislation necessary for a no deal transition out to WTO terms. There's no schedule agreed and no legislation for a schedule.

3 - Preparations for No-deal are ongoing that don't require operational staff.

4 - We can but hope.
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Re: Brexit

#7129  Postby Ironclad » Apr 12, 2019 8:58 pm

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Re: Brexit

#7130  Postby Matt_B » Apr 12, 2019 10:28 pm

It's so typical Royal Mail that it's not even filled in properly too. :)
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Re: Brexit

#7131  Postby zerne » Apr 12, 2019 10:50 pm

Brexit has launched the Farage Party. In attendance was Rees-Mogg's sister. UKIP have called it a "vehicle" for Farage. And they should know.

I reckon someone should spread the rumour that it is a Soros funded front to split the Brexit vote and deny due democracy to the Great British public.

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Re: Brexit

#7132  Postby Thommo » Apr 12, 2019 11:09 pm

It seems unlikely that spreading anti-semitism is an appropriate response.
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Re: Brexit

#7133  Postby zerne » Apr 13, 2019 6:07 pm

Thommo wrote:It seems unlikely that spreading anti-semitism is an appropriate response.


Well if anti-semitism is your thing.. and Conservatiive, UKIP, BNP and Brexit Party aren't to your liking, you can always vote for the Labour Party. :grin:
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Re: Brexit

#7134  Postby Tracer Tong » Apr 13, 2019 9:40 pm

Sendraks wrote:Why no?


I think referenda are a bad idea, at least for a country, like Britain, with no tradition of them.
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Re: Brexit

#7135  Postby GrahamH » Apr 14, 2019 7:59 am

Bill Cash may be trying to be an anti-Gina Miller and use the courts push us over the Brexit cliff.
Theresa May's Article 50 extension is illegal, and will be challenged in the courts

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Re: Brexit

#7136  Postby minininja » Apr 14, 2019 8:36 am

Well surely that's never going to get off the ground after the Cooper bill passing?
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Re: Brexit

#7137  Postby Scot Dutchy » Apr 14, 2019 8:50 am

Anything in the UK is possible; anything.
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Re: Brexit

#7138  Postby Alan B » Apr 14, 2019 12:29 pm

I presume that these 'taking it to court' twats prefer a no deal exit. Good. Then when they can get to court they can be cross-examined if the they are employing any tax avoiding procedures and why would staying in the EU affect their ill-gotten gains. :whistle:
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Re: Brexit

#7139  Postby GrahamH » Apr 14, 2019 12:55 pm

Alan B wrote:I presume that these 'taking it to court' twats prefer a no deal exit. Good. Then when they can get to court they can be cross-examined if the they are employing any tax avoiding procedures and why would staying in the EU affect their ill-gotten gains. :whistle:


Bill Cash is very keen on no deal.

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Re: Brexit

#7140  Postby ronmcd » Apr 14, 2019 12:55 pm

These are the people who ranted hysterically from the back benches about Europe, with the front bench ignoring them and rolling their eyes, just ignore angry uncle Bill.

And now people actually know who they are, and listen to them, as if they're important. What a shitshow.
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