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Re: Brexit

#8201  Postby GrahamH » Jun 19, 2019 10:31 am

Matt_B wrote:Where on Earth does this idea that Stewart is against Brexit come from?

He just wants to rule out no-deal. Otherwise, he's practically the number one fan of May's deal.


A lot of brexiteers think May's deal is not Brexit, or "Brexit in name only (BINO)". Fans of May's deal are therefore suspect types who want to keep the UK too close to the EU for some tastes.
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Re: Brexit

#8202  Postby ronmcd » Jun 19, 2019 12:48 pm

tuco wrote:Obviously, but what does it say about them as people. Significant damage to the economy, the party being destroyed but Jeremy Corbyn is apparently huge.

The mind of the conservative member is a mystery to me.
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Re: Brexit

#8203  Postby zerne » Jun 19, 2019 1:14 pm

I dunno, it looks like they'd be willing to give up on Brexit in exchange for some sort of structured de-Corbynisation of the Labour Party.
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#8204  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jun 19, 2019 1:47 pm

They cant get out of no-deal. It is the only option to save their money in their tax havens.
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Re: Brexit

#8205  Postby zerne » Jun 19, 2019 4:18 pm

They can, but they won't. Bit of a difference. Same result.
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Re: Brexit

#8206  Postby tuco » Jun 19, 2019 4:24 pm

ronmcd wrote:
tuco wrote:Obviously, but what does it say about them as people. Significant damage to the economy, the party being destroyed but Jeremy Corbyn is apparently huge.

The mind of the conservative member is a mystery to me.


Fair enough. I suspect such a mind is not much different from most other minds. Groupthink, personal animosity, that kind of stuff present in most humans, without them being able to analyze it properly.
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Re: Brexit

#8207  Postby newolder » Jun 19, 2019 4:26 pm

Colour me unsurprised. :roll:

EXCLUSIVE Impermissible Donors – Farage’s Party Required to Return their Millions
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19 June 2019

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This will likely establish that the Brexit Party took donations from unidentifiable and therefore impermissible donors on a massive scale without returning them. Section 57 requires the return of these donations, which is likely on a crippling scale...


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Re: Brexit

#8208  Postby zerne » Jun 19, 2019 5:18 pm

Rory's out. Increasing support for Boris.
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Re: Brexit

#8210  Postby Matt_B » Jun 19, 2019 9:22 pm

GrahamH wrote:
Matt_B wrote:Where on Earth does this idea that Stewart is against Brexit come from?

He just wants to rule out no-deal. Otherwise, he's practically the number one fan of May's deal.


A lot of brexiteers think May's deal is not Brexit, or "Brexit in name only (BINO)". Fans of May's deal are therefore suspect types who want to keep the UK too close to the EU for some tastes.


There's always been some of that, but we're practically talking the entirety of the right-of-centre media here with him. Even Andrew Marr described him that way.

Anyway, he's out of it now. Although I dare say that he'll be primed for a comeback when Boris fails to deliver his promised no-deal unicorn.
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Re: Brexit

#8211  Postby zerne » Jun 20, 2019 6:34 pm

Down to two; Boris Johnson & Jeremy Hunt.

So Boris for PM then.
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Re: Brexit

#8212  Postby Svartalf » Jun 20, 2019 6:49 pm

shit.
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Re: Brexit

#8213  Postby tuco » Jun 20, 2019 7:03 pm

Yeah. The only thing I want to know how those who said that Mrs. May was not compromising enough feel now.
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Re: Brexit

#8214  Postby Spearthrower » Jun 20, 2019 7:55 pm

zerne wrote:Down to two; Boris Johnson & Jeremy Hunt.

So Boris for PM then.



That was unfortunately obvious from the outset.

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Re: Brexit

#8215  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jun 20, 2019 8:00 pm

The Brexiteers choice was always for Johnson. The Trump stooge.
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Re: Brexit

#8217  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jun 20, 2019 8:02 pm

With Corbyn what else.
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Re: Brexit

#8219  Postby ronmcd » Jun 20, 2019 8:07 pm

I'm still trying to process the way that, after deciding in 2016 that they had no interest in Boris Johnson being their leader, Conservative MPs then watched him dramatically screw up everything he attempted for the next three years, which somehow changed their minds.

Johnson for PM is Brexit incarnate. Nobody really thinks it's a good idea. The fundamentals don't stack up. Everybody is embarrassed when they have to explain it to foreigners. But hey, let's do it anyway.

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