The talks and negotiations.
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ronmcd wrote:I know it's hard to believe, but did you know this "debate" was broadcast on national ITV, including STV and Border, and presumably in Wales and NI too?
I know!
ronmcd wrote:I didn't watch it, my fingernails needed pulling out, or something, but apparently the two main political leaders (in England) held some sort of "debate". My understanding from words on t'internet is Boris mentioned indyref and Sturgeon in the first question, and there was even a formal question to the two main political leaders (in England) about Scottish and Scottish independence, where they were given free reign for a few minutes to tell us what we could and could not bally well do, thank you very much.
Tracer Tong wrote:Under the Scotland Act, constitutional questions are reserved to Westminster. Given one of them will be Prime Minister in a month, it was hardly unreasonable of them to outline their policy on future independence referenda.
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GrahamH wrote:Tracer Tong wrote:Under the Scotland Act, constitutional questions are reserved to Westminster. Given one of them will be Prime Minister in a month, it was hardly unreasonable of them to outline their policy on future independence referenda.
If they want to talk about independence they should do so with the representatives of those who's independence is at stake.
Tracer Tong wrote:GrahamH wrote:Tracer Tong wrote:Under the Scotland Act, constitutional questions are reserved to Westminster. Given one of them will be Prime Minister in a month, it was hardly unreasonable of them to outline their policy on future independence referenda.
If they want to talk about independence they should do so with the representatives of those who's independence is at stake.
They have done.
ronmcd wrote:My understanding from words on t'internet is Boris mentioned indyref and Sturgeon in the first question, and there was even a formal question to the two main political leaders (in England) about Scottish and Scottish independence, where they were given free reign for a few minutes to tell us what we could and could not bally well do, thank you very much.
Ironclad wrote:Did all the Brits here get a lovely letter from Boris today? We did, it's funny. "let's get off the hamster wheel of Doom", he says.
GrahamH wrote:Tracer Tong wrote:GrahamH wrote:Tracer Tong wrote:Under the Scotland Act, constitutional questions are reserved to Westminster. Given one of them will be Prime Minister in a month, it was hardly unreasonable of them to outline their policy on future independence referenda.
If they want to talk about independence they should do so with the representatives of those who's independence is at stake.
They have done.
Those representatives were excluded from that debate where independence was discussed:
Tracer Tong wrote:
So were many other representatives. The debate was supposed to be between the only two people who can be PM, who, appropriately, expressed their view on an important constitutional question when asked to do so.
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Parliaments with an overall majority in the House of Commons 2.11 After an election, if an incumbent government retains an overall majority – that is, where the number of seats won by the largest party in an election exceeds the combined number of seats for all the other parties in the new Parliament – it will normally continue in office and resume normal business. There is no need for the Sovereign to ask the Prime Minister to continue. If the election results in an overall majority for a different party, the incumbent Prime Minister and government will immediately resign and the Sovereign will invite the leader of the party that has won the election to form a government. Details on the appointment of the Prime Minister and ministers can be found in Chapter Three.
Parliaments with no overall majority in the House of Commons 2.12 Where an election does not result in an overall majority for a single party, the incumbent government remains in office unless and until the Prime Minister tenders his or her resignation and the Government’s resignation to the Sovereign. An incumbent government is entitled to wait until the new Parliament has met to see if it can command the confidence of the House of Commons, but is expected to resign if it becomes clear that it is unlikely to be able to command that confidence and there is a clear alternative.
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Fallible wrote:
Sad to say I would have got precisely nothing from seeing Sturgeon in that debate. The SNP are not going to become the party of government in my area, or for the majority of Brits. I already know she wants Indyref 2, which I do not oppose. I can’t vote for the SNP. I have no SNP representative in my borough (Marie Rimmer). In short, despite being one of the better party leaders, Nicola Sturgeon is pretty much irrelevant to me at this point.
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