David Cameron has set out the government's strategy to defeat the "poison" of Islamist extremism.

He pledged to tackle extremist ideology and "the failures of integration" which he said had led to hundreds of Britons joining Islamic State (IS) militants.

Among a number of proposals, the PM promised to allow parents to have their children's passports cancelled if they feared they were at risk.

He also pledged to look at social housing to prevent further segregation.

He said the government's strategy included plans to:
◾Enable the communications watchdog Ofcom to clamp down on foreign TV channels broadcasting extremist messages
◾"Incentivise" schools to become more integrated
◾Demand that internet service providers do more to remove extremist material and identify those responsible for it
◾Overhaul the strategy to tackle extremism in prisons
◾Consult on introducing lifetime anonymity for the victims of forced marriages
◾Create a new review by civil servant Louise Casey into boosting opportunity and integration for minority groups
◾Urge universities to do more to challenge the views of extremist speakers they choose to give a platform to
◾Set up a new engagement forum
◾Launch a study looking at how extremism spreads
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33590305

update
civil servant Louise Casey who is she?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33592323

What is "extremism"?

Violent Wahhabism is as good a definition as any. That's too theologically detailed for popular usage, and, of course, would infuriate Saudi Arabia, so extremism it is.

As for the strategy, some sensible suggestions.

Personally, I'd like to see a dual approach of Muslim mentors reaching out to vulnerable young people at risk of radicalization, and using the charge of providing material support for terrorism to jail as many of the already-radicalized as possible. If they can be deradicalized, let 'em back out again with supervision; if not, convict 'em, and keep 'em locked up as a threat to public safety, until they no longer are.

I'm still waiting on more details TBH, but some of what he plans to do is a 2 edge sword. For instance I know from MemriTV that Arab TV has some real hate and bile pouring out on the Jews. A 3 year old saying Jews are pigs and apes isn't going to get on the BBC, but out there it is prime time TV, as are the kiddies in school doing slay the Jew school dramas because our prophet tells us so.

Well the Guardian is suggesting Cameron could ban that TV translated for English speakers clip ever being shown. Right now such clips could warn you, me, anyone about what is going on over there, that a religion of peace isn't what is on those Muslim minds.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk ... ?ocid=iehp
What else might be censored?

I'd like to see a dual approach of Muslim mentors

https://youtu.be/kKvAUwoJhEc?t=2m41s

this is the interesting bit, the teacher says radical muslims we boot them out, what they do when they leave, none of our concern, then you look at the arab head gear on students... hey, radicals warning??? its Pakistan not Saudi!!!

Something like the Danish Aarhus mode is what I had in mind, a carrot/stick approach, that prosecutes criminals, but seeks to reach people vulnerable to radicalization before it gets that far.

Byron wrote:Something like the Danish Aarhus mode is what I had in mind, a carrot/stick approach, that prosecutes criminals, but seeks to reach people vulnerable to radicalization before it gets that far.

I was thinking on the lines of what you say. If the clerics aren't taking responcibility and just teaching Muhammad obey obey obey, then you need someone there who will say but that 'obey' doesn't mean you be a religious dick.

It is so ludicrous. Here is the representative of the British Empire that has done untold damages for centuries around the world worrying about a bunch of kids in Iraq and Syria who have none of the weapons and power of the British Empire! It's laughable. Cameron supports Saudi brutality, Israeli brutality, and the Brits have been right there with their Sykes-Picot agreement to destroy the Ottoman Empire, to push Germany into the ground, to create havoc in China, India, Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Ireland, and he's all hot and bothered about those kids in Syria and Iraq. BTW, what happened to his earlier boogeyman, Ayman Al Zawahiri, of Al Qaida, who was a "worldwide threat" just a year or two ago?!

duvduv wrote:BTW, what happened to his earlier boogeyman, Ayman Al Zawahiri, of Al Qaida, who was a "worldwide threat" just a year or two ago?!

How do you think he stopped being a threat? And what makes you think that he still isn't a threat?

Good grief! "Hardy" has finally admitted IS are real Muslims!

Because All Qaida was a manufactured threat. That's why Zawahiri has disappeared. A new bogeyman has replaced him.

Can you really stop religious extremism any more than you can stop bank robberies, with intelligence and policing you can prevent/catch some of them but you are never going to stop every determined individual who wants to kill people

mcgruff wrote:What is "extremism"?

Believing in the supernatural.

duvduv wrote:It is so ludicrous. Here is the representative of the British Empire that has done untold damages for centuries around the world worrying about a bunch of kids in Iraq and Syria who have none of the weapons and power of the British Empire! It's laughable.

I doubt it's laughable to the British parents of the kids involved. I don't think the PM can ignore the issue because the British Empire has blood on it's hands.

Peter Brown wrote:update
civil servant Louise Casey who is she?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33592323

Someone who isn't a civil servant.

I wonder if Cameron will apply his zeal to other religious schools?

Sendraks wrote:

Peter Brown wrote:update
civil servant Louise Casey who is she?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33592323

Someone who isn't a civil servant.

I take this back.

She's been a civil servant at some points in her career, but seems to flit in and out of the service as the mood suits her. Politicians seem to like her, possibly because she promises short term fixes to horrendously complex problems and then somehow gets away with failing to deliver. A proper nasty piece of work.

duvduv wrote:It is so ludicrous. Here is the representative of the British Empire that has done untold damages for centuries around the world worrying about a bunch of kids in Iraq and Syria who have none of the weapons and power of the British Empire! It's laughable. Cameron supports Saudi brutality, Israeli brutality, and the Brits have been right there with their Sykes-Picot agreement to destroy the Ottoman Empire, to push Germany into the ground, to create havoc in China, India, Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Ireland, and he's all hot and bothered about those kids in Syria and Iraq. BTW, what happened to his earlier boogeyman, Ayman Al Zawahiri, of Al Qaida, who was a "worldwide threat" just a year or two ago?!

Yes, empire-state building is often not a pretty affaire, but the Brits have hardly been unique in their efforts. The Sykes-Picot agreement for example was signed by empire builders from France, Italy and Russia. Also, it's a different time. There'e no British Empire anymore.

But what are you actually saying here?

Surely you're not suggesting Cameron should do nothing about British citizens getting killed and committing atrocities, because the British Empire has done bad things in the past?

Scot Dutchy wrote:I wonder if Cameron will apply his zeal to other religious schools?

No because Middle Class C of E schools are popular (they have a chav filter that stops plebs going to them)