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Church HIV prayer cure cause three deaths

#1  Postby Ironclad » Oct 18, 2011 6:59 am

At least three people in London with HIV have died after they stopped taking life saving drugs on the advice of their Evangelical Christian pastors.

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The women died after attending churches in London where they were encouraged to stop taking the antiretroviral drugs in the belief that God would heal them, their friends and a leading HIV doctor said.


Jane Iwu, 48, from Newham, east London, described one case, saying: "I know of a friend who had been to a pastor. She told her to stop taking her medication - that God is a healer and has healed her."
"This lady believed it. She stopped taking her medication. She passed away," said Ms Iwu, who has HIV herself.


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Re: Church HIV prayer cure cause three deaths

#2  Postby Wuffy » Oct 18, 2011 9:47 am

:o :shock: :(
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Re: Church HIV prayer cure cause three deaths

#3  Postby chairman bill » Oct 18, 2011 9:49 am

The US has a 'reckless endangerment' offence. It sounds like the kind of thing that we should have in the UK, and apply in cases like this.
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Re: Church HIV prayer cure cause three deaths

#4  Postby trubble76 » Oct 18, 2011 10:03 am

Funnily enough, if the victims would have desperately wanted to die, the same church would doubtless not have permitted it.
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#5  Postby Wuffy » Oct 18, 2011 10:11 am

So... Crass as it is. Have we come to the conclusion that praying to god for a cure = assisted suicide?
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#6  Postby trubble76 » Oct 18, 2011 10:14 am

Wuffy wrote:So... Crass as it is. Have we come to the conclusion that praying to god for a cure = assisted suicide?


Well as praying = 0
I would phrase it more like;

convincing someone to stop taking medication with promises of magic cures = assisted suicide
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#7  Postby Quip » Oct 18, 2011 10:25 am

On the bright side, they don't have to worry about HIV anymore.

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Re: Church HIV prayer cure cause three deaths

#8  Postby Globe » Oct 18, 2011 10:29 am

Despite being presented with examples like this over and over again, I still have a hard time comprehending that people can be so:
1) STUPID to believe God will cure them if told so by a religious nut.
2) GULLIBLE to believe God will cure them if told so by a religious nut.
3) BRAINWASHED to believe God will cure them if told so by a religious nut.

Maybe I just expect too much from people in general.... :what:
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#9  Postby Ironclad » Oct 18, 2011 2:41 pm

It is amazing to think that when the mortally sick is told by the pastor, god will heal you, they don't get very excited and reply, that's brilliant - who else has been fully cured of this disease?

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Re: Church HIV prayer cure cause three deaths

#10  Postby Jef » Oct 18, 2011 3:35 pm

chairman bill wrote:The US has a 'reckless endangerment' offence. It sounds like the kind of thing that we should have in the UK, and apply in cases like this.


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