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Re: Covid lifting of restrictions ..too soon??

#261  Postby jamest » May 22, 2020 5:05 am

Why don't you try to negate what I've said using your intellect, instead of acting the cunt? Just an idea.
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#262  Postby Fenrir » May 22, 2020 5:13 am

You haven't actually said anything of substance.

Did you notice?

All you've done is whine about some perceived temporary loss of some imagined privilege and declare the sky is falling.

If you wanted to argue that the measures taken to mitigate covid-19 are extreme and unnecessary and without any positive benefit then all your work is still ahead of you. Personally i'd prefer you didn't try, I find public displays of narcissistic ignorance and hubris rather depressing.
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#263  Postby jamest » May 22, 2020 5:25 am

What a wanked-out response that is.

You'll get a few thumbs-ups from the sheep, but don't gloat on it.

I'd prefer it if you just avoided responding to my posts any more to be honest, as your content is utterly vacuous and just tries to undermine me as a person which - let's be honest - the FUA should be protecting me from, but won't.

I don't really give a fuck, as I obviously have broad shoulders, but you shouldn't be wasting my time here with these remedial responses. Don't bother me any more with your neanderthal threats and humour. I'm beyond that shit.

My hope is that world will one day - as a majority - see what kind of person it took to destroy the world. And they'll link to posts like yours as an example.
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#264  Postby jamest » May 22, 2020 5:30 am

Oh, by the way, if I haven't said anything of substance, why are you here making an effort to to make me look like a dick so as to undermine what I've said?

Are you just a bad person who likes to make remedials feel bad about themselves because they lack the ability to post substantial information? Why THE FUCK are you here belittling me if I've said nothing of significance?

What's your actual problem? Try being honest and open for a fucking change.
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#265  Postby Fenrir » May 22, 2020 5:58 am

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

This is a discussion forum. I will respond to any post I like.

I will particularly respond to low rent brainless panic-mongering and products of ill-informed imagination so I'm guessing we will talk again shortly. see you then.

In the meantime by all means show me what for and post some informed factual and reasoned content to back up your wibble, I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.

PS: It requires no effort to make you look like a dick, you supply that yourself.
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#266  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 22, 2020 8:47 am

jamest wrote:The bottom-line of my attitude is that our fears are going to kill far more of us in the medium-term than this virus is, which let's face it isn't very many in the scheme of things.

You mean more than during a controlled flue outbreak?
You mean 100s of 1000s of people?

jamest wrote:Those who are too short-sighted to envision the consequences of a collapsed global economy for a sustained period of time, notwithstanding the negative effects of it all to the human psyche in terms of "returning to normal", have no fucking clue how detrimental to humanity our present fears are having upon our future.

Maybe, rather than trying to fuel those fears with unsubstantiated doom-saying, you should look at the facts.

jamest wrote:I stand by what I've said

Whooptie doo, have a cookie.

jamest wrote: and the world is now in dire need of a significant politician to say what I've said, because if we carry on hiding from this as though it were the plague and it was going to kill a significant percentage of us, then it will do, INDIRECTLY.

Acknowledging the factual dangers of this virus and how easily it can spread among humans is not hiding in fear as if this is the plague.

jamest wrote:And fyi, I'm not hiding in my home. I continue to work 5 days a week outside my home - my wife 6 days a week - and on Sundays we always go outside the home for a walk or whatnot. Further, I go to a Tesco superstore twice a week.

Wow. Amazing, have a full jar of cookies you rebel. :coffee:


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Again, I must reiterate that if you're elderly and/or have underlying health issues, then I fully support your decision to self-isolate. Indeed, any and ALL government hand-outs should have been to make-safe these people in the first place. There is NO reason, other than to give the NHS some time to prepare, to isolate the rest of us indefinitely when the consequences for doing so are potentially catastrophic. Seriously.

Again, we don't know every possible risk factor yet and one can still spread the virus even if you yourself aren't at severe risk from the disease. This isn't a matter of personal choice Jamest. :naughty:
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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#267  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 22, 2020 8:50 am

jamest wrote:
Rachel Bronwyn wrote:Was anyone shitting themselves at home? Because I wasn't. I'm still not. Should I have been?

You should be, because by supporting the "stay at home" message, you're contributing towards the medium-term consequences of this disaster, which is that many more people will die as a consequence of the financial effects of all of this fear, than from the virus.

So you keep mindlessly asserting, but failing to demonstrate.
Opening up to soon could just as easily cause issues because the number of employees and consumers will drop to dangerous levels due to everyone being ill.

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The people that matter, the average person, is FUCKED unless people like you start to say "fuck this" and get back out there and DEMAND that your government stops this nonsense. The problem simply doesn't demand this cure, and as sure as sure can be, this cure is going to be far worse than the problem.

I am so relieved reality and governments don't operate based on your personal ignorance and incredulity.

jamest wrote:I'm not here for the thumbs-ups.

Gonna play the martyr card again Jamest? :yuk:

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At some point the penny is going to drop and the MAJORITY of you (the world) will see that this virus isn't the actual crisis which currently threatens humanity. It's our fears and our weak/corrupt governments which will destroy the bulk of us. Don't ever forget this, because in the scheme of things this 'message' is about as important as it gets, from me. Sure, most of you will laugh/scorn, but if there's just one of you out there who is actually listening to what I'm saying and is willing to do something about it relative to what I'm saying here and elsewhere, then it's worthwhile.

Thus sayeth the book of Jamest, thus shall it be! :roll:
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#268  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 22, 2020 8:50 am

jamest wrote:
Rachel Bronwyn wrote:I'll let you know if I'm in need of a lengthy screed about the world ending because Burning Man is cancelled for a summer.

You don't need to "let me know" anything, as I already know. My objective was to make you think beyond the blinkers which currently limit you to the bullshit output we're all currently familiar with, including your retort to my post. Good luck to you.

Have you looked in a mirror yet? :coffee:
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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#269  Postby aufbahrung » May 22, 2020 10:28 am

He's right you know? Not doing something is doing something. This especially in the case of the captain of great ocean liners. Less so with regards street cleaners.
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#270  Postby ronmcd » May 22, 2020 11:14 am

jamest wrote:There's something else I want to mention, which is that "the news" is fucking atrocious, especially in my country. The BBC was once renowned as being the best source of factual/skeptical news the world over. Now, it for-sure has the government's hand up its arse.

For the first several weeks of this virus, the bulk of the news was all about the NHS and PPE and about individuals here and there who had died from it.
Fucking shit-scaring propaganda!!!

Almost 55,000 excess UK deaths during Covid-19 outbreak, says ONS

I'm sorry, are 50,000 deaths that would not have happened without COVID19 just to be ignored?

jamest wrote:In all of this time, I've heard about 5 minutes of content on the BBC news - and I watch it quite regularly - about public discontent regarding the lockdown etc.. For example, riots/demonstrations in Wuhan, Paris, many places across the globe, especially the USA, have not been reported. Indeed, it was only last week that the BBC mentioned - for about a minute - some demonstration in the UK. And why was that? Simply because one of the people arrested was the brother of Corbyn, the recent opposition leader to the government. It's a fucking disgrace that the BBC and other news outlets are not reporting this openly.

What discontent? Polls show that - until Boris's deliberately confused "stay alert" messaging - the public were supportive of the lockdown. The discontent comes from the nutters. The series of UK anti-lockdown gatherings were organised by Britain First fascist cunts (amongst others who were probably just idiots). Some US ones by "neo-fascist" groups.

And Jeremy Corbyn's conspiracy obsessed sub-Icke idiot brother.

You're in great company James. Tell us again why BBC should be bigging up these people? How about 5G being to blame, maybe throw in some intelligent design programming while we're at it?

jamest wrote:What's also apparent, in case you weren't aware, is that ANYBODY on social media who says something which is detrimental to the current policy, is silenced/banished. For example, my attitude wouldn't be tolerated on youtube/facebook now. Indeed, MANY youtubers have been banned recently, including David Icke, who has been on there for over a decade regardless of his outlook.

The one grain of truth in your recent posts. When cancer specialist Karol Sikora posts an interview on youtube and it gets removed, lumped in with the crazies like Icke, something is wrong. But rather than anti free speech clampdowns, it's more likely a fuckup, over-zealous removal of dangerous misinformation from Icke etc accidentally removing experts discussing their hopes the virus might burn out. Just checked, youtube have restored the video now, as I said over-zealous attempts to remove dangerous material, has to be a balance.

But Icke etc? He can fuck right off.
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#271  Postby Sendraks » May 22, 2020 12:18 pm

jamest wrote:There's something else I want to mention, which is that "the news" is fucking atrocious, especially in my country. The BBC was once renowned as being the best source of factual/skeptical news the world over. Now, it for-sure has the government's hand up its arse.

For the first several weeks of this virus, the bulk of the news was all about the NHS and PPE and about individuals here and there who had died from it.
Fucking shit-scaring propaganda!!!


Once again we can see the weird little bubble jamest lives in to its full effect.

The Government has been, rightly, criticized for its lackadaisical response to the pandemic. The last thing Government wants is any news outlet pointing out how bad the pandemic is or the lack of preparedness of the NHS due to underfunding.

Yet somehow, in the weird bubble jamest inhabits, the media reporting the failings of Government is what the Government wants.
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#272  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 22, 2020 3:14 pm

aufbahrung wrote:He's right you know?

I don't know things that haven't been demonstrated.

aufbahrung wrote: Not doing something is doing something.

And dying is living and white is black. :roll:

aufbahrung wrote: This especially in the case of the captain of great ocean liners. Less so with regards street cleaners.

What is this? Non-sequitur hour?
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#273  Postby felltoearth » May 22, 2020 3:21 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
aufbahrung wrote: Not doing something is doing something.

And dying is living and white is black. :roll:

And atheism is just another form of belief.
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#274  Postby Hermit » May 22, 2020 10:12 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
aufbahrung wrote:He's right you know?

I don't know things that haven't been demonstrated.

aufbahrung wrote: Not doing something is doing something.

And dying is living and white is black. :roll:

aufbahrung wrote: This especially in the case of the captain of great ocean liners. Less so with regards street cleaners.

What is this? Non-sequitur hour?

Ah. Life in the Crumple-zone.

Aufbahrung has never managed to make sense in his 18,000 posts over at Rationalia, many of them under the alias of Crumple. It would be a mistake to expect him to start now.
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#275  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » May 22, 2020 11:37 pm

I just read that while English beaches are open the public bathrooms aren't yet and people are shitting in the open. I can't imagine why you all aren't there right now.
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#276  Postby jamest » May 23, 2020 2:44 am

I think I'll come back to this discussion in a few months. You all want proof and I cannot provide that without the eventualities which will ensue.
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#277  Postby Hermit » May 23, 2020 3:10 am

jamest wrote:I think I'll come back to this discussion in a few months. You all want proof and I cannot provide that without the eventualities which will ensue.

No worries. I'll remind you of your prophesies on the 17th of March 2021 if you're still hanging around here like a smelly fart. I have them bookmarked for the occasion.
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#278  Postby jamest » May 23, 2020 5:03 am

Hermit wrote:
jamest wrote:I think I'll come back to this discussion in a few months. You all want proof and I cannot provide that without the eventualities which will ensue.

No worries. I'll remind you of your prophesies on the 17th of March 2021 if you're still hanging around here like a smelly fart. I have them bookmarked for the occasion.

I have no such implementations for the shite you speak, but who cares.

This isn't about me, or you. I'm just trying to reach-out to any individual in the hope that what I've said makes a difference to their lives, for at the end of the day this isn't about making money it's about minimising suffering.

In a year or so from now, when everything is 'normal', please feel free to enjoy ridiculing me. I really don't care about being ridiculed any more, after two decades+ of being ridiculed and abused.. On the other hand, when everything is far worse than it currently is, which it will be, I can but hope that at least one member here took me seriously and was consequently proactive in getting out of Dodge.
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#279  Postby Hermit » May 23, 2020 5:19 am

jamest wrote:
Hermit wrote:
jamest wrote:I think I'll come back to this discussion in a few months. You all want proof and I cannot provide that without the eventualities which will ensue.

No worries. I'll remind you of your prophesies on the 17th of March 2021 if you're still hanging around here like a smelly fart. I have them bookmarked for the occasion.

I have no such implementations for the shite you speak...

Whatever do you mean by "implementation"?

No, don't bother trying to explain. Whatever you mean by it is irrelevant. What matters, are your prophesies. To wit,
jamest wrote:We'll be in the realms of a 4-figure percentage hike within a year
and
jamest wrote:a bankrupt Earth will kill roughly half of its population

Ten months to go.
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#280  Postby jamest » May 23, 2020 5:38 am

Those were/are my best estimates at the time. Stop being an arsehole, as at no point have I said any of those estimates were going to be accurate at a precise moment in time. Not that being accurate matters, of course, since it's the endgame that matters, and I'll definitely rest my credibility upon that, as this hole is definitely going down the shitter, even if it takes more time than I first imagined. Which it might not do.

You are obviously intent on bringing 'me' down, and so we are destined to speak again. As a back-up plan, I'd suggest that you think about your apology to me. You're gonna need one.
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