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Crandall University defends anti-gay hiring policy

#1  Postby Kazaman » May 31, 2012 7:05 pm

Crandall University defends anti-gay hiring policy

The vice-president of Crandall University said the institution, which receives some public funding, has the right to hire staff based on their sexual preferences.

Crandall University, a Christian liberal arts school in Moncton, [New Brunswick,] is being criticized for enforcing an anti-gay policy.

But Seth Crowell said the school was given the right in 1983 to educate based on its beliefs.

“Within that act of the legislature, there's a sub-clause that says Crandall University — at that point Atlantic Baptist College — has the opportunity to grant degrees to students with a viewpoint that is Christian,” he said.

“In the confines of a faith community, of a religious community, it has that jurisdiction.”

Crowell said that includes requiring staff to follow Christian values behind closed doors.

The school's moral code for staff clearly requires employees to “be sexually pure, reserving sexual intimacy for within a traditional marriage between one man and one woman."

A previous version of the code specifically banned staff from participating in homosexual activity, but Crowell said that was changed two years ago.

“The board of governors made an adjustment to try to convey that this isn't an attack against anybody but a statement in terms of a faith position,” said Crowell.

Future student backs out

The policy came as a shock to Jillian Duplessie, who planned to begin the bachelor of education program in 2013.

Duplessie said she wasn’t comfortable studying where gay people are excluded.

"If I had a student that felt isolated, I would be devastated if they felt they couldn't turn to me because they found out about Crandall on my record," she said.

Duplessie has revoked her acceptance to the school and she said she will go to a university that better fits her values.

Crowell said Duplessie’s decision is unfortunate.

He said students are encouraged to defend their opinions. But he said that doesn’t mean the board of governors will change the policy.

Public funding questioned

Crowell is also defending public funding that goes to the school.

He said the money goes to job incentives and covers functional expences.

“One can understand that in the simplicity of it, public dollars going to a private institution can seem a little bit off,” he said on CBC’s Information Morning Moncton.

“At the same time, I'm sure your listeners understand that part of what the government does is it provides support to a full range of societal fabric, which includes a lot of organizations of faith.”


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#2  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 31, 2012 7:21 pm

And some people just keep on living in the dark ages....
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#3  Postby Onyx8 » May 31, 2012 7:46 pm

My frigging tax dollars should not be spent on bigots.
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#4  Postby willhud9 » May 31, 2012 9:14 pm

Er where exactly are these public funds? Because you can say the institution receives public funds and lo and behold it is simply financial aid to the students and not funding the school in the slightest.
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#5  Postby Shrunk » Jun 02, 2012 8:30 pm

willhud9 wrote:Er where exactly are these public funds? Because you can say the institution receives public funds and lo and behold it is simply financial aid to the students and not funding the school in the slightest.


The VP says later in the story:

(T)he (public) money goes to job incentives and covers functional expenses.


There also remains the issue of whether this violates human rights law, regardless of whether the school receives public funding. Canadian law forbids discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation even for private businesses. Claimed exceptions to this are subject to the Meiorin test:

An employer can justify the impugned standard by establishing on the balance of probabilities:

    1) that the employer adopted the standard for a purpose rationally connected to the performance of the job;

    2) that the employer adopted the particular standard in an honest and good faith belief that it was necessary to the fulfilment of that legitimate work-related purpose; and

    3) that the standard was is reasonably necessary to the accomplishment of that legitimate work-related purpose. To show that the standard is reasonably necessary, it must be demonstrated that it is impossible to accommodate individual employees sharing the characteristics of the claimant without imposing undue hardship upon the employer


If this was a Catholic seminary, they would probably be able to meet those criteria. As it is, I think they'll have trouble. This is especially the case since gay marriage is legal in Canada, and while they seem to allow that heterosexual employees cam forego the celibacy requirement if they are married, gay do not have that option even though they can be legally married.

The students are not happy with this rule, either:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-bruns ... s-221.html
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#6  Postby Imagination Theory » Jun 02, 2012 8:55 pm

The school's Statement of Morality requires all faculty and staff "To be sexually pure, refraining from such activities as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, and the use of pornographic materials; (Exodus 20:14; I Corinthians 6:18-20; Ephesians 5:3)."

I wonder if they kick someone out of lying, not being a Christian, or for getting knocked up while unwed too. Hmm.

"As a Christian community, Crandall University upholds Christian standards of behavior to which faculty and staff are required to conform". Is this school accredited? I'd think not, so why do they get tax money? Or if they are, how did that happen?

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#7  Postby Shrunk » Jun 02, 2012 9:44 pm

Imagination Theory wrote:The school's Statement of Morality requires all faculty and staff "To be sexually pure, refraining from such activities as adultery, fornication, homosexuality, and the use of pornographic materials; (Exodus 20:14; I Corinthians 6:18-20; Ephesians 5:3)."

I wonder if they kick someone out of lying, not being a Christian, or for getting knocked up while unwed too. Hmm.

"As a Christian community, Crandall University upholds Christian standards of behavior to which faculty and staff are required to conform". Is this school accredited? I'd think not, so why do they get tax money? Or if they are, how did that happen?

http://www.crandallu.ca/cu/mission-stat ... -standards


It seems they're accredited.

What I'm interested in is whether they refuse to hire non-Christians.
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#8  Postby Nicko » Jun 03, 2012 2:52 am

It's worth noting that their statement of values excludes the majority of heterosexuals as well by prohibiting sex outside of the context of a same-sex marriage.

Shrunk wrote:It seems they're accredited.

What I'm interested in is whether they refuse to hire non-Christians.


They seem to require people to behave like Christians at any rate. Well, Christian as defined by them. I'm sure that there are a lot of people who identify as Christians who do not feel that regarding homosexuality as impure is required by their faith. I think that your earlier point that there is a clear double standard at work by requiring a section of legally married couples to abstain from sex was a good one too.

But it is the "Meiorin test" that you brought up that seems likely to make these issues a legal matter. I don't think their policy passes it.
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#9  Postby Shrunk » Jun 03, 2012 12:58 pm

Nicko wrote:It's worth noting that their statement of values excludes the majority of heterosexuals as well by prohibiting sex outside of the context of a same-sex marriage.


Which may not have been a problem. I don't think it is illegal to require that employees remain celibate until marriage (It's just really dumb.) But to allow married heterosexuals, but not married homosexuals, to work there is clearly discriminatory.

They seem to require people to behave like Christians at any rate. Well, Christian as defined by them. I'm sure that there are a lot of people who identify as Christians who do not feel that regarding homosexuality as impure is required by their faith. I think that your earlier point that there is a clear double standard at work by requiring a section of legally married couples to abstain from sex was a good one too.

But it is the "Meiorin test" that you brought up that seems likely to make these issues a legal matter. I don't think their policy passes it.


It'll be particularly difficult for them since it seems the majority of students were not even aware of this policy and, now that they are, they are mostly opposed to it. So the school cannot really argue that anti-homosexual discrimination is an essential requirement of their educational mission.
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