Dawkins sues Josh Timonen

devogue · #1 by **devogue** » Oct 23, 2010 5:07 pm

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http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/10/22/31283.htm

Couldn't happen to two nicer people!

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MODNOTE
Update 1:

Members please be advised that joshtimonen joined as a member here during the course of this thread and he is therefore now protected under the Forum Users Agreement.

Update 2:

P.Z. Myers joins the forum and links us to the full formal complaint: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010 ... imonen.php

Update 3:

The counsel speaks: http://richarddawkins.net/discussions/5 ... enberg-esq

Animavore · #2 by **Animavore** » Oct 23, 2010 5:08 pm

devogue · #3 by **devogue** » Oct 23, 2010 5:08 pm

And Dawkins was paying him almost $100,000 per year! :lol:

DoctorE · #4 by **DoctorE** » Oct 23, 2010 5:09 pm

uhhhh....

Loke · #5 by **Loke** » Oct 23, 2010 5:13 pm

Mazille · #6 by **Mazille** » Oct 23, 2010 5:15 pm

katja z · #7 by **katja z** » Oct 23, 2010 5:17 pm

Considering how fiercely Dawkins defended Timonen only half a year ago, I almost feel sorry for him.

Is it possible that he'll change his mind about certain other Timonen's actions as well? :think:

John P. M. · #8 by **John P. M.** » Oct 23, 2010 5:18 pm

Well, atheists have no morals, so what do you expect... :p

Timonen seemed like such a nice bloke, though. :shifty:

kiore · #9 by **kiore** » Oct 23, 2010 5:18 pm

Is this really true? It is too believable to be true..
:whistle:

Elena · **#10** by **Elena** » Oct 23, 2010 5:19 pm

Wow. And here I was thinking that the RD forum was mismanaged from sheer incompetence. :coffee:

Festeringbob · **#11** by **Festeringbob** » Oct 23, 2010 5:19 pm

someone pm jan, she will love this

devogue · **#12** by **devogue** » Oct 23, 2010 5:20 pm

In his 18-page complaint, Dawkins describes himself as "the world's best known and most respected atheist."

What a complete prick.

z8000783 · **#13** by **z8000783** » Oct 23, 2010 5:21 pm

Gosh, it's all very exciting isn't it?

John

DaveD · **#14** by **DaveD** » Oct 23, 2010 5:22 pm

Festeringbob wrote:someone pm jan, she will love this

Done.

Aca · **#15** by **Aca** » Oct 23, 2010 5:23 pm

Good for Dawkins, i guess. Better late than never

DaveD · **#16** by **DaveD** » Oct 23, 2010 5:25 pm

devogue wrote:
In his 18-page complaint, Dawkins describes himself as "the world's best known and most respected atheist."

What a complete prick.

To be fair, he probably doesn't, it'll be his lawyers saying that.
"The world's best known and most respected atheist" that is, not that he's a prick!

BrandySpears · **#17** by **BrandySpears** » Oct 23, 2010 5:26 pm

Reminiscent of Madalyn Murray Ohair's debacle.

kiore · **#18** by **kiore** » Oct 23, 2010 5:26 pm

Really although I don't doubt these things happen I wouldn't have thought a certain person was competent enough to actually get away with this.. although it seems he hasn't. Guess there will need to be a revision of the dedication in the next edition of the Greatest Show On Earth.. :popcorn:

Audley Strange · **#19** by **Audley Strange** » Oct 23, 2010 5:27 pm

devogue wrote:
In his 18-page complaint, Dawkins describes himself as "the world's best known and most respected atheist."

What a complete prick.

I was thinking that myself.

So is this to do with the RDF forum collapse? I left long before it.

Wiðercora · **#20** by **Wiðercora** » Oct 23, 2010 5:28 pm

DaveD wrote:
devogue wrote:
In his 18-page complaint, Dawkins describes himself as "the world's best known and most respected atheist."

What a complete prick.

To be fair, he probably doesn't, it'll be his lawyers saying that.
"The world's best known and most respected atheist" that is, not that he's a prick!

He probably is the world's best-known atheist, though.