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Re: Democrat Watch

#1881  Postby arugula2 » Sep 11, 2020 5:25 am

settleforbiden.org/ (tongue-in-cheek, but not a total parody)
Overall concept is pretty clever. I can tell it's not 100% neolibs behind it, bc that species has no detectable sense of humor. Some of the Instagram humor is a little too earnest, though... must be the Warren contingent.

Great photo choices. Perfect juxtaposition.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1882  Postby arugula2 » Sep 13, 2020 9:01 pm

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The problem with being in the generation that had to learn how the Web works as adults: many of them, however privileged, find that the learning is lifelong. Unless they grift for a living.

[Reveal] Spoiler: Susan Sarandon's reply
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Anywhoo... :this: rich white lady sure as fuck speaks for me. You fucking grifter.

On a related note: the People's Party is a real thing. Maybe we'll start reconsidering this neoliberal dystopia motif, from the ground up.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1883  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Sep 14, 2020 8:33 am

arugula2 wrote:On a related note: the People's Party is a real thing. Maybe we'll start reconsidering this neoliberal dystopia motif, from the ground up.

will that be a „People‘s Party of America“ or an „America‘s People‘s Party“ :grin:
* my (modified) emphasis ( or 'interpretation' )

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1884  Postby Svartalf » Sep 14, 2020 9:44 am

@arugula2 excuse me, but I just don't quite get the gist of the Susan Sarandon tweeto stuff you posted, could you please give me background notes and explanations?
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1885  Postby Hermit » Sep 14, 2020 11:00 am

Svartalf wrote:@arugula2 excuse me, but I just don't quite get the gist of the Susan Sarandon tweeto stuff you posted, could you please give me background notes and explanations?

If you click on the spoilered pic the context should clarify what the shitfight is about.

Failing that, this article spells it out for you.

Basically, Soledad O'Brien is having her arse handed to her by Sarandon.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1886  Postby Svartalf » Sep 14, 2020 12:02 pm

well, I had looked at the spoilered images, but still lacked too much background to make sense of it... thanks for the article.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1887  Postby arugula2 » Sep 14, 2020 4:06 pm

:lol: I would've guessed you were being sarcastic about my long-winded posts.

Idk why it still shocks me that O'Brien's level of bs passes for serious (or clever) political commentary... but this is how empty and broken the political thinking in this country is. She obviously thinks her point is well-taken. And if anyone spells out her bs, there's no repercussion to her as a journalist or communicator. She doesn't have to respond or explain her stance. She has advisors to steer her personal brand, and that's all that matters to her. She's the embodiment of the thing that will destroy the world (ie, not fascists with WMD's, but fully-formed neoliberal cyborgs that eat babies and level mountains).

I'm amazed also at how gracious Sarandon's reply is. Granted, it's to point out the embarrassing inadequacies of the Biden election machinery, and even includes a TL;DR at the end because American attention spans are embarrassing.

It's almost enough to forgive the Italian in Lorenzo's Oil (I keed, I keed...)
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1888  Postby The_Piper » Sep 14, 2020 5:08 pm

The world needs more Triumph the insult dog. :)
I also didn't initially understand the post. I didn't know who Soledad O'brien or Ryan Knight are, or why Soledad O'brien wrote that in response to what she quoted. Was Sarandon referring specifically to people of color? If not, O'brien's comment is irrelevant. :lol:
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1889  Postby arugula2 » Sep 14, 2020 5:37 pm

Ah! I'm in the loop now. Yes, I should've mentioned Ryan Knight is an organizer for the new party that's forming next year - although Sarandon's tweet-reply opens with all that info, so I hadn't even thought to type it up.

And yes, Triumph for prez, imo.

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1890  Postby Svartalf » Sep 14, 2020 5:43 pm

I may find the People Party initiative laudable, but the other two are so entrenched that I'm afraid it's not likely to succeed.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1891  Postby arugula2 » Sep 14, 2020 5:55 pm

Actually, all it needs to do is persist & have a presence in every state - that's success. Voters tend to have a misconception about what "success" means because all they pay attention to is presidential elections. But the real political change in this country happens between the school boards and the state governorships. The president is just one dot on the ballot.

The idea is to have a presence in state legislatures and in Congress - that's where the lasting power is. That's also the way to leverage legislative votes when it comes time to pass bills. The people at the top don't have a reason to bend until we give it to them.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1892  Postby arugula2 » Sep 15, 2020 1:14 am

Bloomberg group warns Trump will appear to win big on election night (Axios)

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"OAS Should Retract Its Press Release on Bolivian Election, CEPR Co-Director Says"
(Statement by DC-based research group, 22 Oct 2019.) <-- 2 days after the election.

"The Bolivian people deserve free and fair elections, as soon as possible.".
(Elizabeth Warren, implying election was a fraud, 18 Nov 2019.) <-- 4 weeks after the election.

"Reuters Shields OAS Over False Claims That Sparked Bolivia Coup"
(fair.org, 19 Dec 2019)

Washington Post:
"Bolivia’s Morales resigns amid scathing election report, rising protests."
(10 Nov 2019) <-- ~20 days after the election.
"Bolivia dismissed its October elections as fraudulent. Our research found no reason to suspect fraud."
(26 Feb 2020) <-- 4+ months after the election.

New York Times:
"Election Fraud Aided Evo Morales, International Panel Concludes."
(05 Dec 2019) <-- ~ 7 weeks after the election.
"M.I.T. Researchers Cast Doubt on Bolivian Election Fraud."
(28 Feb 2020) <-- 4+ months after the election.
"A Bitter Election. Accusations of Fraud. And Now Second Thoughts."
(07 Jun 2020) <-- who the fuck cares?


[Reveal] Spoiler: (Joe Biden, doesn't know where Bolivia is, 27 Dec 2019.)


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Re: Democrat Watch

#1893  Postby arugula2 » Sep 16, 2020 6:23 am

This was in the back of my mind when the Axios story showed up. I'd like to flesh it out more, but here's a summary...

CLS Strategies is a DC firm whose job is to interfere in democracies abroad. Was seminal in propagandizing for the christo-fascist, white supremacist "interim" government in Bolivia after it ousted the democratically elected Morales almost a year ago (having done similarly for the right-wing coup government in Honduras after its US-trained, -armed, and -funded takeover there in 2009). Actively promoted Guaido's embarrassing takeover attempt in Venezuela. And was least successful against AMLO in Mexico. Facebook removed their accounts from its platform a few days ago, and apparently a Stanford computer lab has exclusive access to their activity logs.

CLS Strategies execs have close ties to the US government, to the Dem party, and to Biden. Because of course.

More gross details when I have the time & patience.

Full report, focusing on Bolivia and Venezuela:
"Bolivarian Factions: Facebook Takes Down Inauthentic Assets" (PDF)
(Stanford Internet Observatory - Cyber Policy Center, 4 Sep 2020)

Summary:
"A US PR Firm Steps Into Contested Elections"
(Stanford Internet Observatory - Cyber Policy Center, 4 Sep 2020)
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1894  Postby arugula2 » Sep 17, 2020 1:24 am

Agi Hammerthief wrote:
arugula2 wrote:On a related note: the People's Party is a real thing. Maybe we'll start reconsidering this neoliberal dystopia motif, from the ground up.

will that be a „People‘s Party of America“ or an „America‘s People‘s Party“ :grin:

I can't tell if this is in reference to "people" = "Americans", or if it's a joke about previous parties with roughly the same name... :P

If it's the former... I'm pretty sure their platform is internationalist, ie it extends the same philosophy of rights to all people. So it contrasts itself to the longstanding Dem & Repub yen for obscene military spending & imperialistic foreign policy.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1895  Postby Tortured_Genius » Sep 17, 2020 1:52 am

arugula2 wrote:
Agi Hammerthief wrote:
arugula2 wrote:On a related note: the People's Party is a real thing. Maybe we'll start reconsidering this neoliberal dystopia motif, from the ground up.

will that be a „People‘s Party of America“ or an „America‘s People‘s Party“ :grin:

I can't tell if this is in reference to "people" = "Americans", or if it's a joke about previous parties with roughly the same name... :P

If it's the former... I'm pretty sure their platform is internationalist, ie it extends the same philosophy of rights to all people. So it contrasts itself to the longstanding Dem & Repub yen for obscene military spending & imperialistic foreign policy.


"American People's Popular Front" obviously, and not the "People's Popular Front of America" since they are a bunch of splitters.

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1896  Postby arugula2 » Sep 17, 2020 2:15 am

:lol:
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