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Re: Democrat Watch

#1941  Postby arugula2 » Jan 06, 2021 4:10 am

By the looks of it, Henry County alone will close 2/3 of the gap by which Ossoff trails Perdue. :dunno: Too much lag in the bigger districts. Also, Dem turnout allegedly surpassed November.

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1942  Postby arugula2 » Jan 06, 2021 6:50 am

1 asshole down. 1 to go.

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1943  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 06, 2021 7:06 am

Ossoff has taken the lead too!
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1944  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Jan 06, 2021 8:01 am

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1945  Postby arugula2 » Jan 06, 2021 8:27 am

Mitch is sleeping ok. He'll be rid of Trump soon, his stranglehold on Kentucky is secure until he decides to retire, and he's made enough connections to be permanently grafted onto the nexus of corruption. He's pretty chummy with the Dem leadership, because they're all chummy with the same donors and lobbyists. It's all one big happy. And fundraising is always better when you're supposedly punching 'up'.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1946  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jan 06, 2021 6:13 pm

He’s already done his work. What does he have to be worried about?
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#1947  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 06, 2021 6:24 pm

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It's more likely that picture is him worrying about what gibbering nonsense Trump's going to try today. I bet he will be much happier and rested under Biden.
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#1948  Postby arugula2 » Jan 06, 2021 7:14 pm

Hadn't heard this angle. Pretty tasty.

"Raphael Warnock beat Kelly Loeffler for Senate with help from WNBA players.
Kelly Loeffler may think she’s an Atlanta Dream owner, but the Dream definitely owned Loeffler in this election."
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Back in July, Raphael Warnock was polling fourth in a crowded pool of candidates vying for the Georgia Senate seat held by incumbent Kelly Loeffler.

Six months later, he’s the state’s first ever Black senator.

He’s also the candidate that WNBA players endorsed over Loeffler, a partial owner of the Atlanta Dream. Loeffler had been appointed senator to fill a vacancy late in 2019. Just a few months later in July 2020, the league was preparing to play a bubble season in Florida. While players discussed how they would use their national platform to respond to nationwide mobilization over racism and police brutality, Loeffler critiqued their participation in the Black Lives Matter movement.

She even wrote a letter to commissioner Cathy Engelbert critiquing the league for allowing players to wear shirts and jerseys with messages related to the movement. She also argued, paradoxically, that players should wear American flags on their jerseys to make the sport less “political.” Loeffler’s letter clearly stated a desire to prevent the league’s base of majority Black women players from using their national platform to voice their concerns, beliefs, and demands for change.

So the Dream and other players from around the league decided to invest their advocacy into Georgia’s Senate race, where they endorsed Raphael Warnock, Loeffler’s direct competitor. Starting in August, players from the Dream and other teams wore “Vote Warnock” t-shirts to games, where they would be seen on social media and national television alike.

Their efforts weren’t just as simple as wearing shirts, either: players also directed their efforts in the months leading up to November 2020 to promote voter registration and participation. Players from across the league were involved, including ones who sat out the season to focus their time on social justice, like Natasha Cloud (Twitter).

The way that WNBA players organized in 2020 demonstrates the power of an organized collective of athletes with both the initiative and momentum to stand behind their principles. Many of these players have been involved in social justice movements for years (take Maya Moore, for example), and continue to do so in lasting ways beyond what gets media coverage.

And by November, their efforts had paid off. Warnock’s polling numbers steadily climbed throughout the summer and into the fall. He beat Loeffler and led the race by a narrow margin that would force January’s runoff election. Reporter Nader Issa’s timeline shows how his numbers rose after the WNBA endorsed him (Twitter).

This isn’t to say that WNBA players were the sole reason that Warnock won. They’re not, and to say so would completely disregard Warnock himself, and the work of Stacey Abrams and countless other activists who have been working to the overturn structural barriers that have long suppressed Black voters in Georgia and across the country.

And these two influences had overlap, too, since Abrams has been involved with the WNBA for years, first as a fan and supporter who advocated for the league to create a team in Atlanta, and then as a member of the WNBPA’s Board of Advocates to advise members on how they could utilize their platform to its best potential.

Those years of collaboration helped make the WNBPA the effective tool that it is today. In a recent interview with Forbes, Abrams said that these athletes “are finally reaching a level where they can leverage their power and their position to live out their values and to push our society to confront how our values have to be represented.”

There are a lot of complex factors that make an election happen, and publicity is a huge factor. these players amplified both Warnock’s campaign and the importance of the race at large at a time when many candidates were struggling to stand out of the crowd. And they also brought national attention to Loeffler’s treatment of Black women and opposition to free speech, not to mention allegations of insider trading.

And early evidence shows that the WNBA’s advocacy did impact Warnock’s campaign. The Washington Post found that the publicity from the league early in August boosted donations to Warnock, which in turn changed the financial landscape of the race.

The voices of these athletes combined with the efforts of voting rights advocates like Abrams are what made this election a departure from the ones of years past. As these activists empower more people to vote, our elections get a shot at becoming more democratic.

So, what happens to Kelly Loeffler now? For one, she loses her Senate seat. Her future with the league is less clear. When players asked for her removal over the summer, the league responded in a press release that Loeffler does not serve on the Dream’s Board of Governors or participate in any day-to-day operations. But for now she remains listed as an official partial owner of the team, despite the clear divide in priorities and values between players and herself.

And who knows— now that more people are paying attention, the Dream might have some other ownership offers soon (Twitter).

Warnock’s win inspires a clear message: don’t write off the power of the WNBA organizing for the causes its players care about. We might not ever know exactly how much these athletes impacted the outcome of the election, but we know that they did impact it. Opponents can continue to ignore the rising power of women in sports, but it won’t change the fact that WNBA players were some of the most influential athletes of 2020.

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Also... no specific praise for Merrick Garland as a law person, but... the fact that he's slated for the AG position is pretty tasty too, since it's a Senate confirmation. And when Thomas finally dies, who's to say Garland doesn't take his place, to complete the circle of life. :think:
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1949  Postby The_Piper » Jan 07, 2021 12:59 am

It's pretty awesome that both Democrats won in Georgia! There's still Joe flipping Manchin to get past, but I hear it's about as good as we can expect from west Virginia. If he's out, they'd probably replace him with a Republican. Which he may as well be. I wouldn't expect Chuck F. Schumer to be as ruthless as he should be. I'd be pleasantly surprised if he is. Biden nominated Merrick Garland as Attorney General. That's really fabulous, on paper. He couldn't be seated on the court, but has a different powerful position. Hopefully he's pro-prosecute on the Trump admin.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1950  Postby arugula2 » Jan 23, 2021 10:41 pm

Interview with Rob Johnson, former senior economist in the same subcommittee Sanders will now head.

"What can Sanders do as Budget Chair?" (theAnalysis-news).

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1951  Postby Seabass » Jan 30, 2021 7:54 pm

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1952  Postby arugula2 » Feb 08, 2021 5:15 am

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AOC does not represent the Dem party. AOC was a missile that took out the #2 Dem in the House, recruited by an organization whose mission is to disrupt the Dem party by outflanking its most powerful members. Her principal action so far in politics has been to set up an independent funding source for progressive challengers of Dem politicians.

The bag of shit on the right, whose name I'll make a point not to commit to memory, 10 years ago would've been to the Repub party what AOC is to the Dem party: a missile. The missiles on the right had a head start.

The actual Dem party, and the actual Repub party, are the corporate mass in the middle. They differentiate themselves from one another with slogans and dog whistles, but they mostly agree on most things that affect most real people. Their grift works because humans aren't built for rational skepticism, and the useful idiots in the media and the twitterverse do most of the propaganda work for them (including feel-good memes).

People like AOC exist to shame the "Dem" part of the amorphous central mass into occasionally doing the right thing.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1953  Postby Tortured_Genius » Feb 08, 2021 12:50 pm

Whilst I'd not disagree with what you are saying arugula, I'd submit that the issue is not so much the parties but the electoral system that they are a product of.

The system in the USA (and the UK I'd add!) were put into place before the current parties existed, before universal suffrage, before the rise of corporate power and long before civil rights were a thing. In that context a first past the post system makes perfect sense (how can Congressman Fred Bloggs have a proportional vote?), as does the influence of personal wealth (the only people allowed to vote are property owning white males).

Fast forward 250 years and you have 2 party states dominated by corporate money where the votes of 90% of the population are irrelevant since they are in "safe" seats. "Flawed democracy" is something of an understatement.

Against that background what is needed is sweeping electoral reform to establish:

A proportional representation system.
Elimination of the electoral college for the presidency.
The removal of the influence of corporate and personal money on the political process.
Etc.
Etc.

(and that's without even going into cutting down on abuses such as gerrymandering and voter suppression).

Unfortunately there are only 2 ways of getting there:

1.) Revolution - which will likely be violent...

2.) Gradual change - always difficult since the current incumbents generally have zero incentive to put this in place (it's how they got there after all).

Ignoring option 1 (generally, in the short term, not a good option because of death, destruction, more death, etc):

Under the Republican party any sort of change, unless in the direction of further entrenchment, will never ever happen. Ever. Their masters are corporate money and personal wealth and those will brook no change. Think boots on faces forever.

With the Democrats at least there is a possibility of baby steps towards reform, since the GOP have so seriously deformed the voting system in their favour that uniquely it is actually to the Dems advantage as incumbents to put reforms in place. Add in "missiles" like AOC (who anywhere else would be regarded as a pretty standard centre-right politician) and things like elimination of the filibuster, the outlawing of blind shell companies and so on become possible.

Unless the electoral system changes then the parties won't change. And unless the parties change the electoral system will take forever to change. The Dems are currently the least worst option towards that goal.
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#1954  Postby Seabass » Feb 08, 2021 4:50 pm

arugula2 wrote:The actual Dem party, and the actual Repub party, are the corporate mass in the middle. They differentiate themselves from one another with slogans and dog whistles, but they mostly agree on most things that affect most real people. Their grift works because humans aren't built for rational skepticism, and the useful idiots in the media and the twitterverse do most of the propaganda work for them (including feel-good memes).

They're not the same if you think black people should be allowed to vote.
They're not the same if you think women should have control over their own bodies.
They're not the same if you favor science over religion.

In short, they're not the same if you reject the notion that a country's "greatness" comes from its racial and religious composition.

Bothsidesism is tedious and intellectually lazy. Criticize the Dems all you want, god knows there is plenty to criticize, but don't tell me they're the same as Republicans because that is some bullshit. It's like saying the NSDAP and SPD of Germany 1930 were the same. Neither was perfect, but they were not the same. One was far, far, far worse than the other.
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Re: Democrat Watch

#1955  Postby arugula2 » Feb 27, 2021 9:03 am



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#1956  Postby arugula2 » Mar 07, 2021 9:51 am

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Re: Democrat Watch

#1957  Postby arugula2 » Mar 18, 2021 5:44 pm

So the current M4A House bill getting mentioned lately is some version of Jayapal's longstanding proposal (since 2017?). Can't tell whether it has more House support than it has in the past. Won't matter unless the media generally endorses it and/or generally doesn't lie to keep it sidelined, like they have been doing for years.
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#1958  Postby Seabass » Apr 30, 2021 1:07 am

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#1959  Postby arugula2 » Apr 30, 2021 3:49 am

^ In the middle video, there’s a lot of bloviating, particularly a long-winded question midway about Biden’s role in decisions over the escalation in Afghanistan, followed by a long-winded answer. In the question, it’s amusing to watch Juan González hem & haw in calling it an American “empire”... you can almost see the targeted revenue flashing before his eyes. Scahill, too, does a weird double-scrubbing of facts in real-time as he’s listing them:

First, he says Biden was honoring the pre-existing agreement Trump signed with the Taliban; then he refers to it as a withdrawing of the “large-scale US military presence” which he describes as “a few thousand troops and sixteen thousand contractors” (emphasis his). The problem with the first thing is it leaves out the part about how Trump’s agreement was for May 1, and that Biden is effectively negating it & giving the DoD 4-5 more months to complicate things. The second thing is even less forthright, and it renders the first thing moot, because in fact nobody knows what’s going to happen with the contractors (aka hired murderers & rapists of villagers) - not even they do (Bloomberg Law). The baseline realist prediction is that there’ll always be thousands of American-hired guns in Afghanistan, in addition to the hundreds of spec-ops/CIA fascist skinheads that're this country's main human export to the world.

The distinction doesn't matter anyway - giant military footprint or not, very few people are ignorant/brazen enough anymore to deny who cuts the checks & who sells the war toys. And we haven't even gotten to drones and Air Force skinheads.
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#1960  Postby chango369 » May 17, 2021 11:22 pm

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