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Voltage wrote:I was reading this earlier. It's here?
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/ontario-ho ... -1.1952234
epepke wrote:
In a few months, in a continent with a huge number of people, poor medical facilities, little sanitation except in a few places, and a hugely undereducated populace, a bit fewer than 2000 people have managed to contract it. That's about how many people in the US will die from automobile accidents this month.
Peter Brown wrote:Ironclad wrote:Peter Brown wrote:What gets me with these doom plagues is how some places aren't just wiped out, like just about anywhere when religion & prayer > science and hospital care.
I have read that ebola isn't as infectious as you'd imagine. Those chaps wear the space-age bubble suits, not because it is so virulent, but because the consequences are so terrible if we do catch it. Maybe this is why towns aren't dying like YAHWEH wants.
Its kind of like HIV, it needs to be body fluids, but unlike AIDS, the terminal stages are bleeding from orifices so your going to have high risks to everyone touching them not wearing 100% barrier clothing. So places like India this virus would, should be lethal.
One of the problems I heard a few days ago was the virus is totally new to the environment. As a result villagers are actually blaming the Docs for spreading it and refusing them village access, or even attacking them.
The 90% mortality rate was old and way out of date media research. The media was quoting 90% from day 1, but serious reporters had that down to 60% the same afternoon when they bothered to ask a Dr in the field. Stupid media outlets still quote 90%.
Death toll was in the 900s a few days ago, I've not seen many figures being quoted, just serious, endemic, crises to scare the public into a frenzy for an antidote, like the piggy flu that never was.
Treating Ebola with Homeopathy
During its more than 200 year history, homeopathy has proven highly effective in epidemics, both as regards cure and prevention, with well-documented success rates in, among others, scarlet fever, polio, cholera and flu epidemics, and offers a viable alternative to standard vaccination called homeoprophylaxis.
With the current threat of an Ebola epidemic, this technology and experience can be put to good use. In this article you will find the means to help you survive an Ebola virus infection...
Arsehats from the link above wrote:How to Make Your Own Ebola Remedy
What you need:
1. A face mask and gloves
2. Two bottles (50 ml up to 500 ml glass or plastic bottles) with caps
3. Clean water (mineral or tap water)
4. An Ebola sample...
ED209 wrote:Treating Ebola with Homeopathy
During its more than 200 year history, homeopathy has proven highly effective in epidemics, both as regards cure and prevention, with well-documented success rates in, among others, scarlet fever, polio, cholera and flu epidemics, and offers a viable alternative to standard vaccination called homeoprophylaxis.
With the current threat of an Ebola epidemic, this technology and experience can be put to good use. In this article you will find the means to help you survive an Ebola virus infection...
http://blogs.naturalnews.com/treating-e ... opathy/:eh:
4. Hold the bottle and strike it hard against a solid surface, such as a large book, 40 times.
Alan B wrote:4. Hold the bottle and strike it hard against a solid surface, such as a large book, 40 times.
That won't fucking work. It's gotta be a LEATHER bound book!
Scarlett and Ironclad wrote:Campermon,...a middle aged, middle class, Guardian reading, dad of four, knackered hippy, woolly jumper wearing wino and science teacher.
orpheus wrote:epepke wrote:
In a few months, in a continent with a huge number of people, poor medical facilities, little sanitation except in a few places, and a hugely undereducated populace, a bit fewer than 2000 people have managed to contract it. That's about how many people in the US will die from automobile accidents this month.
This is indeed comforting, and a necessary counterbalance to the scaremongering. However, I see a few problems with this comparison (and others like it):
1) Yes, fewer than 2000 have died in a continent with a huge population. But most of that population could not have caught the virus from this outbreak anyway, because they are nowhere near the comparatively small and concentrated location of the outbreak. Similarly, the US has about 2000 deaths per month from automobile accidents. However, automobiles are ubiquitous in the US. To be a fair comparison, we'd have to consider a situation where the virus was as widespread as cars are now. I'm just a layman, but I'd guess that in such a situation - if Ebola were common nationwide, we'd be seeing far, far more deaths from the virus than from car accidents.
2) Even if the numeric comparison were fair, it applies to the virus as we know it now. But automobiles can't mutate; viruses can, rapidly, and in unexpected ways. Again, I'm a layman, but what if the virus mutated to become transmissible by air rather than by direct contact? I think we'd suddenly see a much more worrying picture.
epepke wrote:orpheus wrote:epepke wrote:
In a few months, in a continent with a huge number of people, poor medical facilities, little sanitation except in a few places, and a hugely undereducated populace, a bit fewer than 2000 people have managed to contract it. That's about how many people in the US will die from automobile accidents this month.
This is indeed comforting, and a necessary counterbalance to the scaremongering. However, I see a few problems with this comparison (and others like it):
1) Yes, fewer than 2000 have died in a continent with a huge population. But most of that population could not have caught the virus from this outbreak anyway, because they are nowhere near the comparatively small and concentrated location of the outbreak. Similarly, the US has about 2000 deaths per month from automobile accidents. However, automobiles are ubiquitous in the US. To be a fair comparison, we'd have to consider a situation where the virus was as widespread as cars are now. I'm just a layman, but I'd guess that in such a situation - if Ebola were common nationwide, we'd be seeing far, far more deaths from the virus than from car accidents.
First part is pretty good, and I'm glad you brought it up. Second part questionable. Stupid burial practices are pretty common in Africa.2) Even if the numeric comparison were fair, it applies to the virus as we know it now. But automobiles can't mutate; viruses can, rapidly, and in unexpected ways. Again, I'm a layman, but what if the virus mutated to become transmissible by air rather than by direct contact? I think we'd suddenly see a much more worrying picture.
True enough, but also, people have been warning about HIV becoming airborne for decades now. It hasn't happened. Of course, it could, but Bayesian statistics, y'all. What is the probability that the fear is because of the probability of mutation, versus the probability that it's just a bunch of nig-nog fear?
Quarantine centre for Ebola patients in Liberian capital Monrovia is attacked and looted by protesters, police say
kiore wrote:Bad things get worse!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28827091
Breaking news from Liberia:Quarantine centre for Ebola patients in Liberian capital Monrovia is attacked and looted by protesters, police say
Scarlett and Ironclad wrote:Campermon,...a middle aged, middle class, Guardian reading, dad of four, knackered hippy, woolly jumper wearing wino and science teacher.
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