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Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles

#1  Postby chango369 » Jul 17, 2020 10:20 am

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In the early hours of July 15, after a night spent protesting at the Multnomah County Justice Center and Mark O. Hatfield Federal Courthouse, Mark Pettibone and his friend Conner O’Shea decided to head home.

It had been a calm night compared to most protesting downtown. By 2 a.m. law enforcement hadn’t used any tear gas and, with only a few exceptions, both the Portland Police Bureau and federal law enforcement officers had stayed out of sight.

A block west of Chapman Square, Pettibone and O’Shea bumped into a group of people who warned them that people in camouflage were driving around the area in unmarked minivans grabbing people off the street.

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Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab Protesters Off Portland Streets
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#2  Postby Svartalf » Jul 17, 2020 10:40 am

mmmh? that sounds more like conspiration theory than actual news...
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#3  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Jul 17, 2020 11:33 am

Svartalf wrote:mmmh? that sounds more like conspiration theory than actual news...

jeah, FBI would wear ill fitting suits not camouflage.
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#4  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 17, 2020 2:39 pm

The article is from Oregon Public Broadcasting: https://www.opb.org/news/article/federa ... rotesters/

Reliable news.

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#5  Postby newolder » Jul 17, 2020 4:00 pm

Obviously I can't vouch for this video but it claims to be from Portland last night. Injured guy, Medics and camouflaged baton wielders. WTF?

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#6  Postby chango369 » Jul 17, 2020 8:13 pm

Svartalf wrote:mmmh? that sounds more like conspiration theory than actual news...


It may have sounded that way to you, but yes, it's actual news.
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#7  Postby newolder » Jul 17, 2020 8:46 pm

I must say, I'm not convinced by those red crosses. :think:
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#8  Postby chango369 » Jul 17, 2020 10:39 pm

Here's more from OPB on the BS in Portland. Apparently the federal agents involved were from Customs and Border Patrol.

U.S. Attorney Billy Williams said Friday he wants an investigation into actions of federal officers who have pulled Portland protesters off the street and into unmarked vehicles.

Federal officers with U.S. Customs and Border Protection have come under significant scrutiny after OPB first reported Thursday that they may have been involved in constitutionally questionable arrests in Portland.

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US Attorney For Oregon Calls For Investigation Into Portland Protester Arrests
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#9  Postby Svartalf » Jul 18, 2020 8:23 am

Yep, I initially thought this to be fake news because that kind of MO seems blatantly illegal...
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#10  Postby Cito di Pense » Jul 18, 2020 8:31 am

Svartalf wrote:Yep, I initially thought this to be fake news because that kind of MO seems blatantly illegal...


That's an indication of how effective it is for you to base your opinions on the way things seem to you. I don't think you care that much about what's legal in general. You know that laws are broken all the time, and you know the US federal law enforcement authorities are under the control of a narcissistic nutcase and his henchman, Barr, and are ordered by the latter to commit illegal acts. You don't have to be coy about saying so.

I lived in Portland for many years; I know the protest culture there, and I know why Trump's administration are targeting it.
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#11  Postby Cito di Pense » Jul 18, 2020 8:53 am

Svartalf wrote:Yep, I initially thought this to be fake news because that kind of MO seems blatantly illegal...


On the other hand, Svarty, your political attitudes might impel you to try to polish your skeptic credentials in this direction without checking the sources. No matter how much polish you apply to tinfoil, you can't turn it into silver.
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#12  Postby Svartalf » Jul 18, 2020 9:32 am

Cito di Pense wrote:
Svartalf wrote:Yep, I initially thought this to be fake news because that kind of MO seems blatantly illegal...


That's an indication of how effective it is for you to base your opinions on the way things seem to you. I don't think you care that much about what's legal in general. You know that laws are broken all the time, and you know the US federal law enforcement authorities are under the control of a narcissistic nutcase and his henchman, Barr, and are ordered by the latter to commit illegal acts. You don't have to be coy about saying so.

I lived in Portland for many years; I know the protest culture there, and I know why Trump's administration are targeting it.

It's not so much that I'm that surprised that orange scrote and its henchchicken would try to order federal officers to do things they have no right to, but that said officers would comply rather than protest.

and LOL
I actually tried to check the source, but did not manage to find out what media organ that acronym actually referred to, so could not credit it as serious since I did not know it was.
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#13  Postby Cito di Pense » Jul 18, 2020 9:44 am

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Cito di Pense wrote:
Svartalf wrote:Yep, I initially thought this to be fake news because that kind of MO seems blatantly illegal...


That's an indication of how effective it is for you to base your opinions on the way things seem to you. I don't think you care that much about what's legal in general. You know that laws are broken all the time, and you know the US federal law enforcement authorities are under the control of a narcissistic nutcase and his henchman, Barr, and are ordered by the latter to commit illegal acts. You don't have to be coy about saying so.

I lived in Portland for many years; I know the protest culture there, and I know why Trump's administration are targeting it.

It's not so much that I'm that surprised that orange scrote and its henchchicken would try to order federal officers to do things they have no right to, but that said officers would comply rather than protest.


You've already seen them doing it during the protests in Washington DC where Trump went to that burned church to hold up a a bible in his hand. Again, I think you're basing your surprise on your personal feelings rather than on data which is available to you. If you're not interested in informing yourself, why are you interested in expressing "surprise" like this? Even if you say you are surprised, you're just making sympathetic noises, now. I've seen plenty of the bigoted tripe you post; you have blind spots big enough to drive a police van through.

There are all sorts of subtleties in the reported incidents of arrest and/or detainment in the Portland situation. Some protesters are defacing or damaging federal property and some are not. I don't expect law to be enforced equitably in a situation of civil disorder. Look up "Kent State National Guard 1970" if you're in any doubt about how long this has been going on. That happend about the time you were saying your first words.

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I actually tried to check the source, but did not manage to find out what media organ that acronym actually referred to, so could not credit it as serious since I did not know it was.


Yah, Svarty. We rely on your long history of diligent research. You kick down the first hurdle and leave the track. "Feckless" is the term for your lame excuses.
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#14  Postby Svartalf » Jul 18, 2020 9:59 am

You're making an unwelcome mix between the data being available, and it having actually been accessed. I follow US news from a distance, and don't spend all that much time reviewing news from there... so I did not know such actions had already taken place.

and cut down on the sarcasm, if you break my sarcasmeter, I'll charge you for the replacement.
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#15  Postby Cito di Pense » Jul 18, 2020 10:03 am

Svartalf wrote:I follow US news from a distance


So do I, Sporto. I reside in the same time zone you do.

I've read your self-evaluations as an "educated person". Try to keep your story straight, and if you're ill-informed (which, in general, you are) be prepared to be called on your bullshit.
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#16  Postby chango369 » Jul 18, 2020 10:22 am

From the ACLU of Oregon.

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https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1284267421033955328
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#17  Postby Hermit » Jul 18, 2020 10:24 am

Svartalf wrote:I actually tried to check the source, but did not manage to find out what media organ that acronym actually referred to, so could not credit it as serious since I did not know it was.

You can't have put much effort into checking the source. I did not know what OPB is either, so I typed "OPB" into Google. Clicking on the first result sent me to OPB: Television, radio & news for Oregon and Southwest .... Unfortunately, the "About" section was not as informative as I had hoped, so I typed "OPB" into Wikipedia's search box. Wonder of wonders, the topmost result it returned was this, and the article filled me in on what the media organ was.

Truth to tell, I suspect you wrote your initial post without even bothering to find out who or what OPB is.
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#18  Postby Svartalf » Jul 18, 2020 10:48 am

looks like I did it the wrong way.
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#19  Postby laklak » Jul 18, 2020 3:34 pm

The Feds been doing this kind of shit since the founding of the Republic.
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#20  Postby chango369 » Jul 18, 2020 8:03 pm

laklak wrote:The Feds been doing this kind of shit since the founding of the Republic.


They're taking it to a whole new level. I'll be expecting these motherfuckers at the polls come November.

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