Not that that's even true about Hindus, but you worship a monkey on a stick.

"Monkey on a stick, monkey on a stick, albatross, albatross."

hinduism - according to Indian constitution are those who are not muslims,christians,sikhs,jains,buddhists,tribal beliefs. They are defined by who they are not. Because the pre islamic India was one where different theologies competed each other. Post islamic India required them to unite against a common enemy. That is the origin of hinduism. Only abt 1000 yrs ago. Not 3500 yrs bullshit!.

Why do they have to do this shit before meetings at all? Waste of fucking time...

At least cows exist....

Thomas Eshuis wrote:At least cows exist....

And taste pretty good if you have to consume their flesh.

trubble76 wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:At least cows exist....

And taste pretty good if you have to consume their flesh.

And human doesn't?

"Of course we will let any religion offer a prayer not just Christian ones...but of course we will have to make sure they aren't praying to cows cause everyone knows that is just silly and no Muslims or any of those odd pagan ones...pretty much we will let any Christian prayer happen. Unless it is one that talks about treating people equal and letting gays get married."

Animavore wrote:

trubble76 wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:At least cows exist....

And taste pretty good if you have to consume their flesh.

And human doesn't?

Fucked if I know.

Animavore wrote:

trubble76 wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:At least cows exist....

And taste pretty good if you have to consume their flesh.

And human doesn't?

Only babies flesh, once they get too old it all gets too tough.

cavarka9 wrote:hinduism - according to Indian constitution are those who are not muslims,christians,sikhs,jains,buddhists,tribal beliefs. They are defined by who they are not. Because the pre islamic India was one where different theologies competed each other. Post islamic India required them to unite against a common enemy. That is the origin of hinduism. Only abt 1000 yrs ago. Not 3500 yrs bullshit!.

But a significant amount of the material that is shared by significant parts of Hinduism does have roots that go 3500 years back, and that is probably what they mean by what they are saying. is that so fucking hard to grasp? You, living in that culture, should be able to grasp something like that.

Animavore wrote:

trubble76 wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:At least cows exist....

And taste pretty good if you have to consume their flesh.

And human doesn't?

Human taste like stale bread and cheap wine.

Zwaarddijk wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:hinduism - according to Indian constitution are those who are not muslims,christians,sikhs,jains,buddhists,tribal beliefs. They are defined by who they are not. Because the pre islamic India was one where different theologies competed each other. Post islamic India required them to unite against a common enemy. That is the origin of hinduism. Only abt 1000 yrs ago. Not 3500 yrs bullshit!.

But a significant amount of the material that is shared by significant parts of Hinduism does have roots that go 3500 years back, and that is probably what they mean by what they are saying. is that so fucking hard to grasp? You, living in that culture, should be able to grasp something like that.

probably 2000 yrs back, not 3500 yrs back bcos back.I didnt listen to the video to be honest, went by title.

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Only babies flesh, once they get too old it all gets too tough.

Cook slowly at a medium temperature. A nice marinade helps.

3500 yrs back they probably ate cows or sacrificed them. Cows became special maybe from 500 bc to 1500 ad

cavarka9 wrote:

Zwaarddijk wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:hinduism - according to Indian constitution are those who are not muslims,christians,sikhs,jains,buddhists,tribal beliefs. They are defined by who they are not. Because the pre islamic India was one where different theologies competed each other. Post islamic India required them to unite against a common enemy. That is the origin of hinduism. Only abt 1000 yrs ago. Not 3500 yrs bullshit!.

But a significant amount of the material that is shared by significant parts of Hinduism does have roots that go 3500 years back, and that is probably what they mean by what they are saying. is that so fucking hard to grasp? You, living in that culture, should be able to grasp something like that.

probably 2000 yrs back, not 3500 yrs back bcos back.I didnt listen to the video to be honest, went by title.

Although the Vedas only were recorded in writing rather recently (2000 years ago, roughly), the language used in it is so conservative it's likely several parts of it are at least a thousand years older than when they were recording. Specifically the Rig Veda seems likely to be about 3500 years, even though it was only recorded in writing from about 400CE. (If you want to, I could explain the linguistic reasoning for why it's likely to be fairly old.)

Zwaarddijk wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:

Zwaarddijk wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:hinduism - according to Indian constitution are those who are not muslims,christians,sikhs,jains,buddhists,tribal beliefs. They are defined by who they are not. Because the pre islamic India was one where different theologies competed each other. Post islamic India required them to unite against a common enemy. That is the origin of hinduism. Only abt 1000 yrs ago. Not 3500 yrs bullshit!.

But a significant amount of the material that is shared by significant parts of Hinduism does have roots that go 3500 years back, and that is probably what they mean by what they are saying. is that so fucking hard to grasp? You, living in that culture, should be able to grasp something like that.

probably 2000 yrs back, not 3500 yrs back bcos back.I didnt listen to the video to be honest, went by title.

Although the Vedas only were recorded in writing rather recently (2000 years ago, roughly), the language used in it is so conservative it's likely several parts of it are at least a thousand years older than when they were recording. Specifically the Rig Veda seems likely to be about 3500 years, even though it was only recorded in writing from about 400CE. (If you want to, I could explain the linguistic reasoning for why it's likely to be fairly old.)

what exactly are we arguing about? And if you really get down to it, one might say some parts are even older perhaps 1750 bc or 2000 bc.Because they speak of a dying river. And if one takes the issue of polytheism which was always present in India it goes even back further. But as I said, 99%+ of hinduism today is post 500 BC. All major gods are post vedic, post buddha even. even what is caste system doesnt come from vedas, its a social code written and enforced post Mauryan empire.part of smriti, not shruti(revealed). vedas are about class system. Both evil and hence a need to wipe it off clean from face of the earth!.

The identification of themselves as hindus only begins after coming of islam and that too after many centuries, not before. You seem to be knowledgeable enough to know for a fact that they all used to debate and disagree with each other. Not all of them saw themselves as being united. It was something along Hellenic beliefs. that is the reason why even atheists existed. The name hindu is not first used by them to refer to themselves. There is no word for religion in Indian languages. The word is dharma, which can mean law & order/morality/. buddhists/jains/sikhs also use dharma. The self identification is the point of birth of identity, else we might say that abrahmic religion because its origins come from a more ancient polytheistic culture must therefore encompass that as well. You might consider that there is a much greater fluidity and less coherence. Y do modern day hindus believe that other religions are more or less true?. Is it not due to blurring of distinctions, if so why did this happen?.

also, why must this begin with prayer or mantra? why cant religion be kept away?