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ISIS slave girl flees Germany for Iraq...

#1  Postby Mike_L » Aug 16, 2018 2:06 pm

Former Yazidi slave girl flees Germany after being confronted by her ISIS captor-turned refugee

16 Aug, 2018

A Yazidi teenager enslaved by Islamic State who sought asylum in Germany has moved back to Iraq after being confronted by her former ISIS captor, who had registered as a refugee in Stuttgart.
Ashwaq Ta’lo said that she was stopped by Abu Humam –- a Syrian ISIS guard who had purchased her for $100 -– while walking home in Stuttgart.
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Ashwaq immediately told her brother about the incident and reported Humam to the German police, who were able to identify the man from CCTV footage. However, German authorities said they had no grounds for arrest, as Humam was also a registered refugee.
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https://www.rt.com/news/436093-yazidi-slave-germany-isis-refugee/
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#2  Postby I'm With Stupid » Aug 16, 2018 5:55 pm

How is there no grounds for arrest? How about war crimes?
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#3  Postby felltoearth » Aug 16, 2018 7:20 pm

Can’t arrest a refugee? Since when?
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#4  Postby mrjonno » Aug 17, 2018 2:36 pm

Got a source that is not Russia Today/Info wars/Daily Mail/ Worldwingnutsocialist.com ?
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#5  Postby Mike_L » Aug 17, 2018 3:10 pm

mrjonno wrote:Got a source that is not Russia Today/Info wars/Daily Mail/ Worldwingnutsocialist.com ?

With those premier sources available to me, why would I bother to rummage around in the bargain-bin of mainstream media?
But okay, the story is also to be found in Newsweek and The Times (UK).
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#6  Postby Regina » Aug 17, 2018 3:47 pm

Mike_L wrote:
mrjonno wrote:Got a source that is not Russia Today/Info wars/Daily Mail/ Worldwingnutsocialist.com ?

With those premier sources available to me, why would I bother to rummage around in the bargain-bin of mainstream media?
But okay, the story is also to be found in Newsweek and The Times (UK).

Why the fuck do you people believe such bollocks? My guess is that it fits your agenda, in which case facts count for nothing. For your information: the Federal Prosecutor General is investigating the case. That's as high as it gets in Germany. The investigation is hindered by the fact that the girl has left Germany and is not available as a witness. They're trying to find the accused, as of now without success.
https://investigativ.welt.de/2018/08/16 ... nnt-haben/
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#7  Postby Mike_L » Aug 17, 2018 4:09 pm

The claim that the police have "done nothing" comes from Ashwaq herself...

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"The police told me that he is also a refugee, just like me, and that they could not do anything about it. They just gave me a phone number that I could contact in case Abu Humam ever stopped me. After this response, I decided to return to Kurdistan and never go back to Germany," Ashwaq told Bas News.
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If an investigation has since been launched by the Federal Prosecutor General, then her claim is subsequently undone.
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#8  Postby Regina » Aug 17, 2018 4:32 pm

Mike_L wrote:The claim that the police have "done nothing" comes from Ashwaq herself...

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"The police told me that he is also a refugee, just like me, and that they could not do anything about it. They just gave me a phone number that I could contact in case Abu Humam ever stopped me. After this response, I decided to return to Kurdistan and never go back to Germany," Ashwaq told Bas News.
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Newsweek

If an investigation has since been launched by the Federal Prosecutor General, then her claim is subsequently undone.

Five days after the alleged incident, the girl helped the police create a phantom image of the accused, which they can use to find him, because, you know, police here don't randomly arrest brown-skinned, beardy people they happen to come across.
In March, the LKA took over, that's police on the Land level. Shortly after that, it became a case the Federal Prosecutor General took over because they have been investigating the crimes against Yasidi people for years. See: https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland ... es-IS.html
RT's claim is shite through and through, and fodder for the pathetically gullible or habitual liars. It's amazing that people on a "rationalist" forum are so readily taken in.
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#9  Postby felltoearth » Aug 17, 2018 5:10 pm

Thanks Regina. I thouht the whole story was very one sided as there were no comments in the articles from authorities (“they could not be reached”). Additonally, the story is remarkably the same in all the outlets which leads me to believe that not much actual joirnalism is being done here.

Also FYI, my comment was in reference to other bollocks posted here. I wasn’t suggesting they should randomly start arresting brown people.

Seems like its bollocks all the way down.
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#10  Postby Mike_L » Aug 17, 2018 5:18 pm

RT's claim is shite through and through...

Yes, RT was lacking in that it failed to follow up on the veracity of the girl's claim.
...and fodder for the pathetically gullible or habitual liars.

...or simply for those who don't read German. The details contained in the article to which you link (https://investigativ.welt.de/2018/08/16 ... nnt-haben/) are not contained in any English-language article that I can find in a Google search. The information is even lacking in the Newsweek article... and Newsweek is not exactly fringe media.
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#11  Postby Mike_L » Aug 17, 2018 5:22 pm

felltoearth wrote:...
Additonally, the story is remarkably the same in all the outlets which leads me to believe that not much actual joirnalism is being done here.
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Yes. :nod: While the German-language coverage seems to be sufficiently detailed, this is not true of the global news networks. Not yet, anyway. They may still give more detailed reports in subsequent articles.
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#12  Postby Regina » Aug 17, 2018 5:34 pm

felltoearth wrote:Thanks Regina. I thouht the whole story was very one sided as there were no comments in the articles from authorities (“they could not be reached”). Additonally, the story is remarkably the same in all the outlets which leads me to believe that not much actual joirnalism is being done here.

Also FYI, my comment was in reference to other bollocks posted here. I wasn’t suggesting they should randomly start arresting brown people.

Seems like its bollocks all the way down.

Additionally, it helps to know that Yasidi people, in particular women, are afforded special status in Germany.
See this article about Baden-Württemberg, the land the girl and her family found refuge.

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/flue ... 03598.html
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#13  Postby Regina » Aug 17, 2018 5:39 pm

...or simply for those who don't read German.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: learn languages, go places.
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#14  Postby Mike_L » Aug 17, 2018 5:49 pm

Regina wrote:
...or simply for those who don't read German.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: learn languages, go places.

Yes, good things those. :nod:

The translators are catching up now (just 7 hours ago)... as in this USA Today article.
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#15  Postby Hermit » Aug 18, 2018 12:37 pm

Mike_L wrote:
Former Yazidi slave girl flees Germany after being confronted by her ISIS captor-turned refugee

16 Aug, 2018

A Yazidi teenager enslaved by Islamic State who sought asylum in Germany has moved back to Iraq after being confronted by her former ISIS captor, who had registered as a refugee in Stuttgart.
Ashwaq Ta’lo said that she was stopped by Abu Humam –- a Syrian ISIS guard who had purchased her for $100 -– while walking home in Stuttgart.
...

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Ashwaq immediately told her brother about the incident and reported Humam to the German police, who were able to identify the man from CCTV footage. However, German authorities said they had no grounds for arrest, as Humam was also a registered refugee.
...

Full text at:
https://www.rt.com/news/436093-yazidi-slave-germany-isis-refugee/

Neither the Youtube clip of Ashwaq Ta’lo's description of what happened nor the investigativ.de link you provided says anything of the sort I highlighted.
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Re: ISIS slave girl flees Germany for Iraq...

#16  Postby Mike_L » Aug 18, 2018 1:37 pm

It's in an interview that she gave with Bas News, subsequently relayed by RT.com and Newsweek...

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"The police told me that he is also a refugee, just like me, and that they could not do anything about it. They just gave me a phone number that I could contact in case Abu Humam ever stopped me. After this response, I decided to return to Kurdistan and never go back to Germany," Ashwaq told Bas News.
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https://www.newsweek.com/teenager-who-escaped-isis-slavery-says-captor-found-her-germany-1076808


Here is a link to the original Bas News article...
http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/reports/459150
The quote appears in the last third of the article, under the heading: "Meeting Abu Humam again, this time in Germany".

The investigativ.welt.de article posted by Regina (https://investigativ.welt.de/2018/08/16 ... nnt-haben/) suggests that the German police have been substantially more diligent than Ashwaq claims they were.
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