monkeyboy wrote:I'm saddened that they will execute this guy for the rape.

cavarka9 wrote:this is now a big issue in this country, the govt banned the documentary, see it as damaging to tourism industry!.

CdesignProponentsist wrote:

monkeyboy wrote:I'm saddened that they will execute this guy for the rape.

I'm not. Fuck him.

I hope he ponders deeply on his impending doom up to until the very second it arrives.

monkeyboy wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:this is now a big issue in this country, the govt banned the documentary, see it as damaging to tourism industry!.

Not sure how that's going to help given that foreign tourists are going to be able to view it. I would have thought it better to be shown and discussed openly, hopefully challenging the thoughts of any like minded potential rapist before he gets around to acting them out. Only by challenging the deeply misogynistic attitudes held by some whereby they can blame a young woman for daring to be out at night on her way home from a movie for her own fatal and brutal gang rape, might things improve for future generations.

monkeyboy wrote:Not sure how that's going to help given that foreign tourists are going to be able to view it.

Shortly before her statement was released, the parliamentary affairs minister, M Venkaiah Naidu, declared: “We can ban the film in India. But this is an international conspiracy to defame India. We will see how the film can be stopped abroad too.”

India’s home minister, Rajnath Singh, told parliament that the government would ensure that “under no condition should this documentary be telecast … no one should show it on electronic media.”

The government would also block the dissemination of the film on any other platform, such as a web portal or on social media, he said.

Singh assured parliament that the Indian government was already exploring ways of stopping the worldwide broadcast. A notice had been sent to BBC4, which will show the film on Sunday in Britain, he said. “We will not allow anyone to leverage such unfortunate incidents [the 2012 Delhi rape] for commercial benefits,” he added.

However, a BBC spokeswoman confirmed that India’s Daughter would be broadcast as planned. “This harrowing documentary, made with the full support and cooperation of the victim’s parents, provides a revealing insight into a horrific crime that sent shockwaves around the world and led to protests across India demanding changes in attitudes towards women,” she said.

“The film handles the issue responsibly and we are confident the programme fully complies with our editorial guidelines. The BBC will broadcast Storyville – India’s Daughter, in the UK on BBC4. The documentary has the backing of a number other public service broadcasters; however, the BBC is only responsible for transmission of the film in the UK.”

monkeyboy wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:this is now a big issue in this country, the govt banned the documentary, see it as damaging to tourism industry!.

Not sure how that's going to help given that foreign tourists are going to be able to view it. I would have thought it better to be shown and discussed openly, hopefully challenging the thoughts of any like minded potential rapist before he gets around to acting them out. Only by challenging the deeply misogynistic attitudes held by some whereby they can blame a young woman for daring to be out at night on her way home from a movie for her own fatal and brutal gang rape, might things improve for future generations.

cavarka9 wrote:They were supposed to show the entire unedited video first.

............Udwin denied this. She said she had taken the full 16 hours of “raw, unedited footage” to the jail, but a three-member review committee, after watching it for three hours, told her: “We can’t sit through all this, it’s too long.”

“So I submitted an edited version which was cleared,” she said.

cavarka9 wrote:the views of the rapist being given a platform is angering people

Doubtdispelled wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:They were supposed to show the entire unedited video first.

............Udwin denied this. She said she had taken the full 16 hours of “raw, unedited footage” to the jail, but a three-member review committee, after watching it for three hours, told her: “We can’t sit through all this, it’s too long.”

“So I submitted an edited version which was cleared,” she said.

cavarka9 wrote:the views of the rapist being given a platform is angering people

Why?

The rajya Sabha was adjourned for 15 minutes after women MPs led by Samajwadi Party MP Jaya Bachchan stormed the well of the house demanding action against Tihar jail authorities for allowing an interview of one of the perpetrators of the December 16 gangrape.

The women parliamentarians were later joined by their male colleagues from the opposition.

" We don't need your crocodile tears,"Ms. Bachchan said to the BJP MPs in the treasury Benches of the house.

monkeyboy wrote:
I don't agree with the death penalty.

monkeyboy wrote:Sounds more like embarrassment at the bad publicity this case has brought to india and an attempt to make it go away by attempting to brush it firmly under the carpet. Unfortunately, the world knows what's under there already.
Now if they could move onto addressing the attitudes which have led to multiple episodes of rapes and murders of women, perhaps India's ministers wouldn't need to worry about their carpets beginning to look like a map of the Himalayas!

Doubtdispelled wrote:And this I don't understand at all...

Delhi rape convict's statement forces Rajya Sabha adjournment

The rajya Sabha was adjourned for 15 minutes after women MPs led by Samajwadi Party MP Jaya Bachchan stormed the well of the house demanding action against Tihar jail authorities for allowing an interview of one of the perpetrators of the December 16 gangrape.

The women parliamentarians were later joined by their male colleagues from the opposition.

" We don't need your crocodile tears,"Ms. Bachchan said to the BJP MPs in the treasury Benches of the house.

Why would these Indian women object to anyone publicising the terrible things this man has to say? Would I need to be Indian woman to understand their point of view?

Doubtdispelled wrote:

cavarka9 wrote:They were supposed to show the entire unedited video first.

............Udwin denied this. She said she had taken the full 16 hours of “raw, unedited footage” to the jail, but a three-member review committee, after watching it for three hours, told her: “We can’t sit through all this, it’s too long.”

“So I submitted an edited version which was cleared,” she said.

cavarka9 wrote:the views of the rapist being given a platform is angering people

Why?

Activists, however have pointed out that there are several problems with the framing of the documentary and that Udwin's 'white-saviour-perspective' in the film, needs to be rejected.
In a piece on DailyO women's right activist and Secretary at the All India Progressive Women's Association Kavita Krishnan has argued that Udwin's documentary seems to re-invoke patriarchal notions of how women are just daughters, mothers or sisters when it comes to leading the fight against rape, a notion that activists and women say needs to be rejected.
She writes, "Hailing Indian women as 'India's daughters' is something India's patriarchs including Indian government's and the most anti-feminist forces in India have always done. Why does a global campaign against gender violence do the same?"
She also points out that based on that when it comes to discussing gender violence in India the cause is not helped by arguing that "India's 'backwardness' is the problem; or that gender violence is 'worse out there in India'".
She notes: "What we're saying is that the global campaign saying rape is an Indian problem, is racist. Rape and rape culture are global problems; there are millions of Mukesh Singhs in every country, including India. What we're saying is that it doesn't help Indian women to bypass or short-cut the legal appeals process and replace it by a mob trial by media."

I came here out of love for India, and because India had led the world by example in the unprecedented protests of its courageous men and women who came out on the streets to fight for my rights as a woman.

India should be embracing this film - not blocking it with a knee jerk hysteria without even seeing it. This was an opportunity for India to continue to show the world how much has changed since this heinous crime; sadly, the FIR and the banning of the film will see India isolated in the eyes of the world. It's a counter productive move. Whoever is behind this - please see the film and then come to a conclusion.

Indian authorities ordered television stations Tuesday not to broadcast a documentary about a gang rape on a New Delhi bus in which one of the attackers blames the victim and says she could have avoided being killed if she had not fought back, a government official said.
The order followed an outcry over giving a convicted prisoner a nationwide platform to express repugnant views about a horrific crime that shocked Indians and prompted hundreds of thousands to take to the streets in protest. In response to the 2012 attack, India's government rushed through legislation doubling prison terms for rapists to 20 years and criminalizing voyeurism, stalking and the trafficking of women

Briton wrote:

monkeyboy wrote:
I don't agree with the death penalty.

I don't but I still don't feel sorry for him.

cavarka9 wrote: it was a case people deeply connected with

There was something momentous about their presence and perseverance - reminiscent to me of the crowds that had thronged Tahrir Square in Cairo - a gathering of civil society that demanded a conversation that was long overdue.

It occurred to me that, for all its appalling record of violence against women and relentless rapes, here was India leading the world by example. I couldn't recall another country, in my lifetime, standing up with such tenacity for women, for me. And I knew at once that I simply had to use whatever talents and skills I had, to amplify their cries of "enough is enough!" which were reverberating across the whole world.

cavarka9 wrote:Also the title India's daughter seems to make people suspicious as it is similar to a book called mother India ,showing India in poor light during India's struggle for freedom against british.