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Re: Jeffrey Epstein’s connections to Donald Trump and Bill Clint

#41  Postby Alan C » Aug 12, 2019 12:59 am

I will most certainly have a difficult time accepting anything Barr says on face value after any investigation into this death. In a contest between his Trump bias and any inconvenient facts we've seen which would win out.
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein’s connections to Donald Trump and Bill Clint

#42  Postby purplerat » Aug 12, 2019 3:07 am

laklak wrote:I want them to do the job they're bloody well paid to do. a job that they take a very fat chunk of my money to do, every year. I want a minimal level of competence. it's not ideological to point out that they failed, spectacularly, to do something that should be dead goddamn simple, just keep the asshole from hanging himself. Or getting murdered, whichever comes first. Could a private company do better? I've no idea. Competence seems in short supply these days, no matter who is getting paid.

Reportedly the issue was with staff shortages. Probably the result of Trump taking a hatchet to the federal workforce. That whole "running the country like a business" thing and all.
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#43  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 12, 2019 3:21 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49312746

Jeffrey Epstein: How conspiracy theories spread after financier's death

Just hours after the high-profile financier Jeffrey Epstein was found dead on Saturday, unsubstantiated theories about his death began to gain traction online.

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Many rumours have centred on what politicians may have known about Epstein's alleged crimes and whether some may have wanted him dead. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest this was the case. And yet, the hashtag #EpsteinMurder trended worldwide on Saturday.
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#44  Postby Alan C » Aug 12, 2019 4:53 am

It seems Russian bots are heavily pushing conspiracies.
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#45  Postby I'm With Stupid » Aug 12, 2019 6:35 am

Alan C wrote:It seems Russian bots are heavily pushing conspiracies.

They might have piled on, but almost all of the comments I saw were from real people. Including the mayor of New York. It's not a massive stretch to be suspicious when someone dies in custody before they go to trial for a series of crimes that could compromise a lot of powerful people.
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#46  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2019 6:58 am

Exactly. Why would he kill himself? All that media attention and nothing to lose. Why was the "suicide watch" removed? The release of the first documents and bang he is gone?
We will never know. A whitewash job will be done and hey presto Epstein is just a stain in history. The establishment will clap each other on the back and say we adverted that one. Some poor sod will be thrown to the wolves (probably Maxwell) and the girls might get some form of compensation.
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#47  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Aug 12, 2019 7:39 am

He was going to spend the rest of his life in prison. People kill themselves for that reason all the time.
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#48  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Aug 12, 2019 7:48 am

and then his cell mate gets moved and he‘s not monitored according to procedure.
almost as good as handing him a rope.
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#49  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2019 7:51 am

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:He was going to spend the rest of his life in prison. People kill themselves for that reason all the time.


Judge and jury are we? He got a "sweetheart" deal before why not again? These people dont want to die.
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#50  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2019 7:52 am

Agi Hammerthief wrote:and then his cell mate gets moved and he‘s not monitored according to procedure.
almost as good as handing him a rope.


Or giving someone a free run.
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#51  Postby Animavore » Aug 12, 2019 7:54 am

Nothing to lose? Here's an obscenely wealthy person who lives a high life with private jets and yaughts, expensive cars, huge mansions and a social life away from the rabble whose friends have now abandoned him and was looking at a long time in a prison among the poor environment that's hostile to child molesters.

He had more to lose than most of us could ever dream of.
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#52  Postby Animavore » Aug 12, 2019 7:56 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rachel Bronwyn wrote:He was going to spend the rest of his life in prison. People kill themselves for that reason all the time.


Judge and jury are we? He got a "sweetheart" deal before why not again? These people dont want to die.


There's no way he was going to get a good deal this time around. There's far too much heat on the case now.
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#53  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Aug 12, 2019 8:06 am

Animavore wrote:Nothing to lose? Here's an obscenely wealthy person who lives a high life with private jets and yaughts, expensive cars, huge mansions and a social life away from the rabble whose friends have now abandoned him and was looking at a long time in a prison among the poor environment that's hostile to child molesters.

He had more to lose than most of us could ever dream of.


And let's pretend he wasn't going to spend the rest of his life in jail.

He would still lose more socially and financially and professionally than most of us can wrap our heads around ever having.
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#54  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2019 8:30 am

Animavore wrote:Nothing to lose? Here's an obscenely wealthy person who lives a high life with private jets and yaughts, expensive cars, huge mansions and a social life away from the rabble whose friends have now abandoned him and was looking at a long time in a prison among the poor environment that's hostile to child molesters.

He had more to lose than most of us could ever dream of.


Bollocks. People like him dont give up. They take revenge. Taking the kool-aid. Well done.
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#55  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2019 8:31 am

Animavore wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rachel Bronwyn wrote:He was going to spend the rest of his life in prison. People kill themselves for that reason all the time.


Judge and jury are we? He got a "sweetheart" deal before why not again? These people dont want to die.


There's no way he was going to get a good deal this time around. There's far too much heat on the case now.


Please, please. Be rational. What would he get IF found guilty? Keep drinking.
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#56  Postby aban57 » Aug 12, 2019 8:33 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rachel Bronwyn wrote:He was going to spend the rest of his life in prison. People kill themselves for that reason all the time.


Judge and jury are we? He got a "sweetheart" deal before why not again? These people dont want to die.


There's no way he was going to get a good deal this time around. There's far too much heat on the case now.


Please, please. Be rational. What would he get IF found guilty? Keep drinking.


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#57  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2019 8:37 am

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:
Animavore wrote:Nothing to lose? Here's an obscenely wealthy person who lives a high life with private jets and yaughts, expensive cars, huge mansions and a social life away from the rabble whose friends have now abandoned him and was looking at a long time in a prison among the poor environment that's hostile to child molesters.

He had more to lose than most of us could ever dream of.


And let's pretend he wasn't going to spend the rest of his life in jail.

He would still lose more socially and financially and professionally than most of us can wrap our heads around ever having.


Another one. What would he lose? Stand back and take a rational look. Scum like him are every where and are protected. Trump himself is still alive and he is no better. Do you think these people have morals? He came from nothing and he is not going to give it up willingly. The American justice system is so corrupt. Do you think it cant be bought? He had a little black book and many people realised that.
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#58  Postby Animavore » Aug 12, 2019 9:04 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rachel Bronwyn wrote:
Animavore wrote:Nothing to lose? Here's an obscenely wealthy person who lives a high life with private jets and yaughts, expensive cars, huge mansions and a social life away from the rabble whose friends have now abandoned him and was looking at a long time in a prison among the poor environment that's hostile to child molesters.

He had more to lose than most of us could ever dream of.


And let's pretend he wasn't going to spend the rest of his life in jail.

He would still lose more socially and financially and professionally than most of us can wrap our heads around ever having.


Another one. What would he lose? Stand back and take a rational look. Scum like him are every where and are protected. Trump himself is still alive and he is no better. Do you think these people have morals? He came from nothing and he is not going to give it up willingly. The American justice system is so corrupt. Do you think it cant be bought? He had a little black book and many people realised that.


If he had a black book it still exists. And being dead could make it worse, not better for any hypothetical people within said black book. The feds may now have free reign on his artefacts depending on how hard the Epstein estate fights against them. He doesn't even have a spouse or children.
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#59  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2019 9:08 am

Feds :rofl: Just who are they Ani? Who is paying them? That black book will exist dont worry scum like Epstein always had one. Where it has gone to will be a worry for some.
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#60  Postby Animavore » Aug 12, 2019 9:16 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:Feds :rofl: Just who are they Ani? Who is paying them? That black book will exist dont worry scum like Epstein always had one. Where it has gone to will be a worry for some.


Ah yes. The Feds are paid by the US government and would never investigate them for anything. Not even election interference or nothing.
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