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#1  Postby campermon » Jan 14, 2020 6:32 pm

My alarms went off when I read this;


"A university is to hire 20 of its own students to challenge language on campus that could be seen as racist.

The University of Sheffield is to pay students to tackle so-called "microaggressions" - which it describes as "subtle but offensive comments".

They will be trained to "lead healthy conversations" about preventing racism on campus and in student accommodation. "

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51098539

Thin end of a wedge?

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Re: Language Police

#2  Postby laklak » Jan 14, 2020 6:35 pm

Gods, I wouldn't last 20 minutes in uni these days.
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Re: Language Police

#3  Postby campermon » Jan 14, 2020 6:48 pm

laklak wrote:Gods, I wouldn't last 20 minutes in uni these days.


:lol:

I found the phrase "lead healthy conversations" quite disturbing. :what:
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Re: Language Police

#4  Postby I'm With Stupid » Jan 14, 2020 6:48 pm

And what happens if they lose the subsequent argument?
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Re: Language Police

#5  Postby campermon » Jan 14, 2020 6:50 pm

I'm With Stupid wrote:And what happens if they lose the subsequent argument?


:dunno:

Sounds like the mission is to stifle argument to me.
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Re: Language Police

#7  Postby scott1328 » Jan 14, 2020 7:04 pm

campermon wrote:
I'm With Stupid wrote:And what happens if they lose the subsequent argument?


:dunno:

Sounds like the mission is to stifle argument to me.

Is racism up for argument?
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Re: Language Police

#8  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 14, 2020 7:11 pm

I feel I'm missing so many details here: where are these race equality champions operating? Do they just wander round the campus inserting themselves into other peoples' conversations?
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Re: Language Police

#9  Postby campermon » Jan 14, 2020 7:12 pm

scott1328 wrote:
campermon wrote:
I'm With Stupid wrote:And what happens if they lose the subsequent argument?


:dunno:

Sounds like the mission is to stifle argument to me.

Is racism up for argument?


No, but "subtle but offensive comments" is.
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Re: Language Police

#10  Postby scott1328 » Jan 14, 2020 7:20 pm

campermon wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
campermon wrote:
I'm With Stupid wrote:And what happens if they lose the subsequent argument?


:dunno:

Sounds like the mission is to stifle argument to me.

Is racism up for argument?


No, but "subtle but offensive comments" is.

So opening up a discussion on how a person's comments might be subtly offensive, is stifling the argument about "subtle but offensive comments"?
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Re: Language Police

#11  Postby campermon » Jan 14, 2020 7:27 pm

scott1328 wrote:
campermon wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
campermon wrote:

:dunno:

Sounds like the mission is to stifle argument to me.

Is racism up for argument?


No, but "subtle but offensive comments" is.

So opening up a discussion on how a person's comments might be subtly offensive, is stifling the argument about "subtle but offensive comments"?


It's the agenda behind it. For example a discussion about that netflix homosexual Jesus movie might be shut down - apparently some find that offensive. Like I said - is this the thin end of some wedge?
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Re: Language Police

#12  Postby scott1328 » Jan 14, 2020 7:29 pm

campermon wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
campermon wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
Is racism up for argument?


No, but "subtle but offensive comments" is.

So opening up a discussion on how a person's comments might be subtly offensive, is stifling the argument about "subtle but offensive comments"?


It's the agenda behind it. For example a discussion about that netflix homosexual Jesus movie might be shut down - apparently some find that offensive. Like I said - is this the thin end of some wedge?

I am sorry I thought you said the discussions were to be about subtle expressions of racism.
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Re: Language Police

#13  Postby campermon » Jan 14, 2020 7:31 pm

:lol:

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Re: Language Police

#14  Postby Ironclad » Jan 14, 2020 7:37 pm

Anything is offensive to someone, and some like to take offense on behalf of others. So, shut up ya racist pigs!!
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Re: Language Police

#15  Postby campermon » Jan 14, 2020 8:00 pm

:lol:
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Re: Language Police

#16  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Jan 14, 2020 8:02 pm

campermon wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
campermon wrote:
scott1328 wrote:
Is racism up for argument?


No, but "subtle but offensive comments" is.

So opening up a discussion on how a person's comments might be subtly offensive, is stifling the argument about "subtle but offensive comments"?


It's the agenda behind it.

Which is detailed where exactly?

campermon wrote: For example a discussion about that netflix homosexual Jesus movie might be shut down - apparently some find that offensive.

You know this how?

campermon wrote: Like I said - is this the thin end of some wedge?

It seems to me that you're making unwarranted assumptions.
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Re: Language Police

#17  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 14, 2020 8:05 pm

Well fair play, it's puzzling to understand how this is meant to work.
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Re: Language Police

#18  Postby campermon » Jan 14, 2020 8:19 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
campermon wrote:

It's the agenda behind it.

Which is detailed where exactly?

Exactly! It's not apparent.


campermon wrote: For example a discussion about that netflix homosexual Jesus movie might be shut down - apparently some find that offensive.

You know this how?

I don't. I was speculating where it might end.


campermon wrote: Like I said - is this the thin end of some wedge?

It seems to me that you're making unwarranted assumptions.


Maybe. I just think it's weird that people are being paid to language police adults.
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Re: Language Police

#19  Postby OlivierK » Jan 14, 2020 10:00 pm

They're not policing anyone, they're adding to the conversation.

I really don't get what the issue is. Sure, the low-hanging fruit of making really blatant racist statements unacceptable has largely been dealt with. So why not move on to the smaller stuff, and deal with that, too?
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Re: Language Police

#20  Postby Svartalf » Jan 14, 2020 10:58 pm

campermon wrote:My alarms went off when I read this;


"A university is to hire 20 of its own students to challenge language on campus that could be seen as racist.

The University of Sheffield is to pay students to tackle so-called "microaggressions" - which it describes as "subtle but offensive comments".

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51098539

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