MattHunX wrote:The only thing I can think of, is how fucking ridiculous (and suspicious) it is that all those countries with all the resources, with all the surveillance tech, satellites...etc. cannot figure what went on and where...

This smells.

Really?

why watch an airplane of which you think you know where it is going?

check out this http://www.flightradar24.com
track every single civil flight movement via satelite for the occasional plane gone missing?

Agi Hammerthief wrote:

MattHunX wrote:The only thing I can think of, is how fucking ridiculous (and suspicious) it is that all those countries with all the resources, with all the surveillance tech, satellites...etc. cannot figure what went on and where...

This smells.

Really?

why watch an airplane of which you think you know where it is going?

check out this http://www.flightradar24.com
track every single civil flight movement via satelite for the occasional plane gone missing?

Not saying watch real time as they go. Check recorded data, trace it back, something like that.

MattHunX wrote:Not saying watch real time as they go. Check recorded data, trace it back, something like that.

yeah, watch the middle of fucking nowhere in case "something"

and btw. INMARSAT did just that.
check recorded data, trace it back to a narrow corridor...
S25 E101 is pretty close to what the data suggested.

unless you want to go all Global Conspiracy with circular reasoning.
I've heared that recently with AF447 - it took them so long to find the recorders so they could fake the data!!1!

Calilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, according to Private Eye, several conspiracy wingnut tweets started appearing on Twitter. The tweets claimed that the plane was being hidden in Kazakhstan by Al-Qaeda terrorists, and that this would result very shortly in a joint Russian-Chinese military operation.

However, you're going to love this. The source of these tweets? None other than Rupert Murdoch.

Maybe it's to get more people to read The Sun. I guess Page 3 wasn't pulling enough readers.

Agi Hammerthief wrote:
unless you want to go all Global Conspiracy with circular reasoning.

This is a simple case of plane hijacking by alien life forms. Has no bloody connection to conspiracies.
Let them keep searching for the next 500 years.

MattHunX wrote:The only thing I can think of, is how fucking ridiculous (and suspicious) it is that all those countries with all the resources, with all the surveillance tech, satellites...etc. cannot figure what went on and where...

This smells.

It was snakes. Snakes on the plane.

Agi Hammerthief wrote:

MattHunX wrote:Not saying watch real time as they go. Check recorded data, trace it back, something like that.

yeah, watch the middle of fucking nowhere in case "something"

and btw. INMARSAT did just that.
check recorded data, trace it back to a narrow corridor...
S25 E101 is pretty close to what the data suggested.

unless you want to go all Global Conspiracy with circular reasoning.
I've heard that recently with AF447 - it took them so long to find the recorders so they could fake the data!!1!

I just think it shows an incredible amount of incompetence [or lack of will, for some reasons, maybe to cover something incriminating or embarrassing up, that might lead to an international disaster (no, not a conspiracy theory, certainly not global - just your typical politics) - on the part of some country(ies)].

Why does there possibly have to be such a borderline-conspiracy-theory reason behind it all, you ask? Because otherwise, it is simply unbelievable that finding a plane with the resources available to all of those countries is proving to be so difficult.

It is already an embarrassment.

It's laughable.

And it is even worse for the relatives of the passengers who suffer even more because of this; what is either genuine incompetence or possible attempt at obfuscation.

Why am I saying such seemingly ridiculous things...?

Because I refuse to accept that they're doing their best, without any interference from any parties, when they cannot locate a frigging plane or undeniable, unmistakeable signs of a crash, in the 21st fucking century, all those countries, with all their resources, with satellites that can see the filling in someones teeth, for fuck's sake.

Unless...some interested parties ARE attempting to hush hush things to prevent something from surfacing out of all this already embarrassing situation.


So there....

Write it off as a conspiracy theory, but I cannot accept such incompetence, unless there is provable interference with the investigation/search.

It is unacceptable in this day and age.

I'm not even following the news about this, until they have something concrete, which they haven't managed so far, and that speaks for itself.

Right

Your incredulity about it doesn't mean that you are right. I think it is very likely that they are doing their best to find the plane. Unfortunately for them the ocean is a fucking huge place and radar (and other coverage) is not complete. In some cases of a plane sinking there is little left on the surface to find it couple that with a huge search area and no matter how good you are or how high tech your equipment you might not find that plane for a long time.

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Your incredulity about it doesn't mean that you are right. I think it is very likely that they are doing their best to find the plane. Unfortunately for them the ocean is a fucking huge place and radar (and other coverage) is not complete. In some cases of a plane sinking there is little left on the surface to find it couple that with a huge search area and no matter how good you are or how high tech your equipment you might not find that plane for a long time.

I know it doesn't mean I'm right. Duh...

the_5th_ape wrote:Right

No, I'm not continuing, don't worry. Not going to debate this fiasco.

Sovereign wrote:

Calilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, according to Private Eye, several conspiracy wingnut tweets started appearing on Twitter. The tweets claimed that the plane was being hidden in Kazakhstan by Al-Qaeda terrorists, and that this would result very shortly in a joint Russian-Chinese military operation.

However, you're going to love this. The source of these tweets? None other than Rupert Murdoch.

Maybe it's to get more people to read The Sun. I guess Page 3 wasn't pulling enough readers.

I think Page 3 readers are pulling themselves.

MattHunX wrote:I'm not even following the news about this, until they have something concrete, which they haven't managed so far, and that speaks for itself.

if you want 'facts only' try http://www.avherald.com
Simon's doing a good job filtering out the BS from the "popular press"

Agi Hammerthief wrote:

MattHunX wrote:I'm not even following the news about this, until they have something concrete, which they haven't managed so far, and that speaks for itself.

if you want 'facts only' try http://www.avherald.com
Simon's doing a good job filtering out the BS from the "popular press"

Our Simon?


Bird Strike!

"It's the jet engine making bird soup melange." Eddie Izzard

MattHunX wrote:
Our Simon?

doubt it, none of the Simons here fit the profile of that site's admin

Latest update from BBC News ... Australian vessel has picked up signals consistent with transmissions from the FDR and CVR in the northern section of the defined search area. One contact was maintained for two hours.

The conspiracy nuts are out in force after todays promising news that a US navy towed undersea sensor connected to one of our navy ships has repeatedly found strong signals from what they can only suspect are the black boxes.
They have been saying the batteries last "around 30 days", and "coincidentally" this is the 30th day. That got the worms crawling out of the woodwork that it was "suspicious".

Of course, an aviation expert said that planes are generally over-engineered, so they usually expect the batteries could possibly last over a week longer than the "about 30 days" they are specced to last.