Fallible wrote:I used to think misogyny was over-reported. In my old age, I’m no longer so sure.
Hoo boy.
To think that I was told, over and over, on this here very forum, that I was talking bollocks.
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Fallible wrote:I used to think misogyny was over-reported. In my old age, I’m no longer so sure.
TopCat wrote:Thommo wrote:Immigration does not solve the problem of an aging population anyway, it can only ever slow it down on a short term basis.
Not only that, but 'make more babies' (of any origin) is not a long term solution to the problem of an aging population either. Current economies require a much larger pool of people of working age then those being supported by them. This is not sustainable, as that larger pool gets old and needs an even larger pool to support them.
What's needed is technology that allows fewer people of working age to create enough resources to support those not working.
That technology may be coming, but I'm pessimistic about the motives of the companies who are best placed to exploit it.
Svartalf wrote:Thommo wrote:Svartalf wrote:Actually, even if a significant portion of Werstern people deem that mass immigration from less developed country is a disaster for the country's culture, one has to realize that since those morons don't make enough children, and the local population at large is not enough to fill all the jobs that need doing, people from elsewhere have to be imported to fill those jobs and ensure that the country has a future at all... you just have to wonder what Japan will be like in 50 years with their population rapidly growing old, the young generations not being renewed, and the country as a rule being hostile to foreigners... and what I say is true in spades for countries like France where it's the working population that pays for old people's pensions, as opposed to those where pension is a savings system.
Lower birth rates are largely a product of women taking control of their lives, careers and fertility. Characterising this as the behaviour of "morons" seems decidedly unhelpful and barely better than the sort of xenophobic attitude you purport to oppose.
Immigration does not solve the problem of an aging population anyway, it can only ever slow it down on a short term basis.
Female empowerment is fine and all that, it remains that due to their using their newfound freedoms, they are launching the country into a demographical catastrophe, so we have to import foreigners to fill up the jobs that their kids won't due to not being there. Face it, each generation since the boomers is smaller than the previous one, and to make the economy run and pay for the pensions of the elderly, we need the next generations to be as numerous as the previous one, or better, more so.
It was on the fact that , thanks to progress in agriculture and medicine, each generation was MORE numerous than the preceding one, that Europe and North America have been able to expand from the start of Modern period till WWI... now the demographical trend has reversed, and we can't ensure our own future.
At 65 years
1950: 13.9 years
2010 19.1 years
Thommo wrote:And for the record among the biggest recipients of the corporate profits that were being decried are pension funds. Make of that what you will.
Svartalf wrote:
Well, if that's not the PoV of those who deem that we are being invaded by the brown folk, and who have enough brains to understand that demography is par of the problem... I don't know what is... in a way the goosd old repugnican platform of jesus, babies and guns makes some sense.
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SafeAsMilk wrote:I took it as sardonic.
Svartalf wrote:
Well, if that's not the PoV of those who deem that we are being invaded by the brown folk, and who have enough brains to understand that demography is par of the problem... I don't know what is... in a way the goosd old repugnican platform of jesus, babies and guns makes some sense.
purplerat wrote:Svartalf wrote:
Well, if that's not the PoV of those who deem that we are being invaded by the brown folk, and who have enough brains to understand that demography is par of the problem... I don't know what is... in a way the goosd old repugnican platform of jesus, babies and guns makes some sense.
Brown folk invading the lands of white folk? When the fuck has that ever really happened? Historically it's been almost exclusively the other way around. Seems like the PoV your are experiencing is one of white folks projecting their own behavior onto other folks and being scared shitless over what it would be like if the shoe were on the other foot.
Thommo wrote:I genuinely didn't get the impression he does. It looks like he was attributing that view to the anti immigration crowd.
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