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Maybe finally...a crack in the NRA wall

#1  Postby Macdoc » Mar 15, 2019 2:05 am

US court: Sandy Hook victims' families can sue Remington
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An AR-15 style assault rifle was used during a shooting in Sandy Hook

A Connecticut court has ruled that families of schoolchildren killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook mass shooting can sue American gun-maker Remington.
In a 5-4 vote, the US state's Supreme Court said the lawsuit could proceed on the basis of state consumer protection laws.
The gun was used by Adam Lanza, who killed 27 people, including 20 elementary school students.
The ruling is a rare legal defeat for an arms firm in a mass shooting case.
The lawsuit, by relatives of nine victims and one survivor, points to the "militaristic" marketing of Remington's AR-15 rifle.
2018 'worst year for US school shootings'

"The families' goal has always been to shed light on Remington's calculated and profit-driven strategy to expand the AR-15 market and court high-risk users, all at the expense of Americans' safety," said Josh Koshoff, a lawyer for the victims' families.
"Today's decision is a critical step toward achieving that goal."
Remington did not immediately respond to a request by the BBC for comment.
Proceedings were initially delayed after the firm filed for bankruptcy last year in the wake of slumping sales.

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#2  Postby Svartalf » Mar 15, 2019 11:46 am

I see the SCOTUS getting this case and reversing this decision... if they don't, the GOP will lose NRA support... and they know they need those dollars, even if the votes are theirs anyway.
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#3  Postby Alan C » Mar 16, 2019 8:28 am

I thought the NRA was somewhat financially fucked and under scrutiny because Butina, how much influence do they still have?
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#4  Postby Macdoc » Mar 16, 2019 11:51 am

I wish

The NRA Looks Weakened. Looks Can Be Deceiving.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/elizabethm ... 3eb335244b

but maybe there is a sea change in the wind

A Guide to Every Known Investigation of the NRA
Here are all the facts about the six active inquiries into the gun rights group.

BY DANIEL NASS· @DNLNSS ·February 27, 2019 · UPDATED March 4, 2019 6:00 pm EDT
The National Rifle Association is caught up in a rapidly expanding tangle of congressional investigations — four launched in the first three months of 2019 alone. Investigators are scrutinizing the gun group’s ties to Kremlin-linked Russians and to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, as well as several potential campaign finance violations exposed by The Trace.

Because it’s challenging to keep track of these probes, we’ve rounded them up below. We included only investigations that directly involve the NRA or its staff. We’ll keep this post updated to reflect the latest developments, and will add new investigations to the list, should they arise.


https://www.thetrace.org/2019/02/nra-in ... n-finance/

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#5  Postby Alan B » Mar 16, 2019 2:29 pm

Hmmm! Could be the start of something. But don't hold yer breath...
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#6  Postby Macdoc » Mar 16, 2019 3:14 pm

Exactly.
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#7  Postby Sityl » Mar 22, 2019 2:25 pm

Macdoc wrote:
Yet the liberal/right wing divide is vitriolic in the US and the middle is missing in a big way. The left is in danger of trying too move too far too fast.


I dont understand, are you saying this is your interpretation, or are you using sarcasm?
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#8  Postby CarlPierce » Mar 22, 2019 4:09 pm

I think the way new Zealand quickly bans assault weapons might set an example for decent people to quote.
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#9  Postby Alan C » Mar 23, 2019 12:40 am

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#10  Postby laklak » Mar 23, 2019 3:30 am

SCOTUS might take the case, there's another, New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. City of New York, they've agreed to hear and all indictions are they'll side with gun rights. If Trump gets another SCOTUS seat my assault weapons are safe.
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#11  Postby Macdoc » Mar 26, 2019 1:35 am

Scandal in Australia ....


US gun lobby scandal engulfs One Nation

Queensland's One Nation leader Steve Dickson
Queensland's One Nation leader Steve Dickson met with with the National Rifle Association in the US. (AAP)
Highlights from the Al Jazeera investigation into Pauline Hanson's One Nation which has embroiled her chief-of-staff and the Queensland leader.
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* Australian Rodger Muller posed as an advocate to relax gun laws while working undercover for Al Jazeera.

* He set up meetings for Pauline Hanson's chief-of-staff James Ashby and Queensland leader Steve Dickson with US lobby groups including the powerful National Rifle Association.

* The three men travelled to Washington where they met with lobbyists to investigate the possibility of getting donations for One Nation.

WHAT STEVE DICKSON SAYS IN HIDDEN CAMERA FOOTAGE

* "I feel so passionate about America sometimes I want to be American. They believe in their country. I want to be that patriotic about Australia."

* "I want to be in bed with the United States. I say that unashamedly and I don't think Pauline's too much different to me."

* "If we can get a million dollars f***ing US towards social media, I don't even need the money. I just need the grunt. If we get the grunt of that social media supporting us, I don't need to touch the money. They are a third party punching this s*** in. And we're giving them the stuff they are punching in. I don't need any more than that. That's the trick."

* "I've been a minister in a government. I'm really fortunate because I was on a committee within parliament called the Parliamentary Crime and Misconduct Committee. It's bad s***. I'm never going to jail - it won't happen because I walk the knife."

* "I was changing s*** all the time." - Dickson talks about discovering the "genie's lamp" of regulation while a minister in the Newman government.

* "We've been importing all these Muslims into Australia."

* "You'd have the whole government by the balls." - Dickson on the prospect of winning the balance of power with eight Senate seats which Ashby estimates will cost $10 million."




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#12  Postby OlivierK » Mar 26, 2019 5:53 am

Delusional fucks think they can throw their power around with 8 senate seats on the one issue the two major parties agree on :lol:

I hope this kills off Pauline's mob for good.

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As a side note for those unfamiliar, the government in which Dickson was a minister was the record-breaking conservative Newman government in Queensland from 2012-15. After Labor had spent 5 terms in office, various scandals saw them dumped hard and the conservative government under Campbell Newman was elected with 78 out of 89 seats. Theoretically, a majority of that size should have seen Newman in power for a decade or more, but his government managed to be so inept, corrupt, cruel and dishonest, that from a position of holding almost 90% of parliament they failed to win re-election in 2015. It's rare for state governments in Australia to be turfed out after only one term. To fail to win a second term against an opposition who went into the election with only 7 MPs is unheard of.
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#13  Postby Hermit » Mar 26, 2019 6:38 am

A more detailed report of the NRL's secret dealings with the One Nation Party can be found here. Anyone with an interest in the issue of privately owned firearms will find it worth reading.

It is worth mentioning that privately owned firearms are not banned in Australia. Ownership is just properly controlled and supervised. The vaunted gun buyback took 20% of privately owned guns out of circulation. That means 80% of the guns that were privately owned before the buyback remained in the same hands after the buyback was concluded eleven months later. Basically, most semi-automatic rifles and pump action shotguns were removed in order to reduce the chances of more mass killings. Concealable weapons were effectively banned by the end of WWII. As far as I can tell fully automatic guns were always illegal in Australia.
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#14  Postby OlivierK » Mar 26, 2019 7:00 am

That would be NRA. (NRL also scum, but of a different kind :lol:)
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#15  Postby Fenrir » Mar 26, 2019 7:54 am

OlivierK wrote:Delusional fucks think they can throw their power around with 8 senate seats on the one issue the two major parties agree on :lol:


Delusional fucks for thinking they could ever get to 8 regardless of the spend. They need another 6, which realistically means 12 coz half their senators rapidly turn out to be too toxic even for Pauline.



I hope this kills off Pauline's mob for good.



She seems remarkably resilient.

I wonder how much Cliev is spending?
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