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Obama will double the God-power in 2nd term

#1  Postby Mike_L » Jan 11, 2013 9:09 am

Obama doubles up on tradition
2013-01-10

President Barack Obama is putting a symbolic twist on a time-honoured tradition, taking the oath of office for his second term with his hand placed not on a single Bible but on two - one owned by Martin Luther King jnr and one by Abraham Lincoln.
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#2  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Jan 11, 2013 9:15 am

Take that all the people saying he couldn't take the oath with his hand on a bible. Not that he should have to, but take that crazy nutters anyway.
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Re: Obama will double the God-power in 2nd term

#3  Postby chairman bill » Jan 11, 2013 9:56 am

Wouldn't it be so much better if he refused the bible altogether, & announced that he was an atheist?

When will the US be grown-up enough to elect an atheist president?
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#4  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Jan 11, 2013 9:58 am

Actually now that he has won his second term that would be the funniest thing he could do. I would love watching all the little minds pop, it would just blow so many people away. I would expect people to try and demand he resign or be impeached and that would be even better as it would be thrown out of court.
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#5  Postby trubble76 » Jan 11, 2013 9:58 am

chairman bill wrote:Wouldn't it be so much better if he refused the bible altogether, & announced that he was an atheist?

When will the US be grown-up enough to elect an atheist president?


I would have said no, but then I would have said the same thing if you'd asked me if they would elect a black guy with a suspiciously muslim-sounding name and I would have been wrong, so who knows?
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#6  Postby Ironclad » Jan 11, 2013 3:04 pm

chairman bill wrote:Wouldn't it be so much better if he refused the bible altogether, & announced that he was an atheist?


One can dream. :smoke:
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#7  Postby Varangian » Jan 11, 2013 3:21 pm

I want him to swear on a whole stack of bible translations, from the KJV to the most recent version. Now that would confuse people no end!
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#8  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jan 11, 2013 3:39 pm

Shove the mormon bible in the pile as well. Why not a koran, the torah and GD.
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#9  Postby Loren Michael » Jan 11, 2013 3:43 pm

trubble76 wrote:
chairman bill wrote:Wouldn't it be so much better if he refused the bible altogether, & announced that he was an atheist?

When will the US be grown-up enough to elect an atheist president?


I would have said no, but then I would have said the same thing if you'd asked me if they would elect a black guy with a suspiciously muslim-sounding name and I would have been wrong, so who knows?


I have no evidence and these are the only examples I can think of, but I strongly suspect that Hollywood paved the way with black actors in extremely powerful and/or respectable positions, what with Morgan Freeman playing the POTUS in Deep Impact, God in Bruce Almighty, and the director of the CIA in The Sum of All Fears. The POTUS in 24 is also a black guy.
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#10  Postby HughMcB » Jan 11, 2013 5:01 pm

Doubling down on fuckwittery.
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#11  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Jan 11, 2013 5:10 pm

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Take that all the people saying he couldn't take the oath with his hand on a bible. Not that he should have to, but take that crazy nutters anyway.


I would be slightly more satisfied if he was swearing on the Koran. I loves to see nutters get nuttier. The moderates tend to take a step to the left when that happens.

I would be even more satisfied if he just said "I promise" rather than "I swear" and the bible were left in the museum where it belongs.
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#12  Postby Clive Durdle » Jan 11, 2013 11:10 pm

"Let your yea be yea and your nay be nay"
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#13  Postby willhud9 » Jan 12, 2013 7:03 am

chairman bill wrote:Wouldn't it be so much better if he refused the bible altogether, & announced that he was an atheist?

When will the US be grown-up enough to elect an atheist president?


Well I don't see Barack Obama as being an atheist. Maybe not a right wing evangelical Christian, but I do see him being a Christian in personal beliefs nonetheless.

The better question is not whether the US is grown up enough to elect an atheist president, but when will the US be grown up enough not to give credence to religious belief as a deciding factor for the candidacy. I mean I would rather have a competent president whom is an evangelical Christian, than an incompetent one whom is a neo-atheist, and vice verse. (whoops didn't finish thought).

Being an atheist doesn't mean you are a better candidate. Just as being a Christian doesn't make you a better candidate. Being a better candidate via policies and positions on executive issues makes you a better candidate, not personal religious values. I have great respect for men and women who are strong Christians in their personal life, but yet in the government remain secular and unbiased towards all religions.
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Re: Obama will double the God-power in 2nd term

#14  Postby Jovan » Jan 12, 2013 6:24 pm

willhud9 wrote:The better question is not whether the US is grown up enough to elect an atheist president, but when will the US be grown up enough not to give credence to religious belief as a deciding factor for the candidacy. I mean I would rather have a competent president whom is an evangelical Christian, than an incompetent one whom is a neo-atheist, and vice verse. (whoops didn't finish thought).

Being an atheist doesn't mean you are a better candidate.

Any candidate who dared to declare his non-belief, would certainly be displaying unprecedented levels of honesty, so that would (IMO) make him a "better candidate".
Unfortunately, in a country where some 70% (?) of the population are believers, it would be 'political suicide', politicians will always 'play the numbers'.

Those people (believers) are looking for validation of their beliefs, and subscribe to religion(s) for sociological reasons. (IMO) Centuries of (successful) 'spin' and propaganda by religions, have resulted in the majority still viewing 'belonging', as a 'badge of goodness' (despite all of the evidence to the contrary).

I always thought it strange that a (unashamedly capitalist) country which is still so (publicly) infatuated with "christianity", yet any forms of 'social welfare' or health care, are viewed as some sort of "communist plot", while simultaneously (supposedly) embracing "christianity", which is basically a socialist doctrine.

I'd love to see any politician trying to use his/her political skills to persuade the majority (in the US) that religion is really not necessary.
-But without churches, synagogues, or mosques, where would people go, to publicly display their "goodness" once a week..?
I think that in order to stand a chance of achieving the eventual extinction of old superstitions and religions, atheism needs to find a way to 'fill that void'. (Because I think that the vast majority will continue to remain 'stupid', for the foreseeable future)
Hence the swearing on the proverbial 'stack of bibles'.
Most people still believe in such rituals. :crazy:
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