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Re: Plain old Trump Watch.

#101  Postby The_Piper » Jun 16, 2021 2:09 pm

The inaction to hold anyone accountable for all of the crimes and abuses of power of the administration has gone from sad to pathetic, to bizarre. It's infuriating.
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#102  Postby Alan C » Jun 17, 2021 12:24 am

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#103  Postby Seabass » Jun 23, 2021 2:07 am


Trump Wanted His Justice Department to Stop ‘SNL’ From Teasing Him

It was the middle of Donald Trump’s presidency, and he was—yet again—mad at Saturday Night Live. And he wanted the federal government to help him settle the score.

In March 2019, the then-president of the United States had just watched an episode of the long-running, liberal-leaning NBC sketch comedy series (it wasn’t even a new episode, it was a rerun), and grew immediately incensed that the show was gently mocking him.

“It’s truly incredible that shows like Saturday Night Live, not funny/no talent, can spend all of their time knocking the same person (me), over & over, without so much of a mention of ‘the other side,’” Trump tweeted, long before he was banned from Twitter for inspiring a violent mob. “Like an advertisement without consequences. Same with Late Night Shows. Should Federal Election Commission and/or FCC look into this?”

It was, on its face, a ridiculous question and threat, as SNL is obviously satire, and therefore a form of protected speech in America that pissed-off commanders-in-chief have no authority to directly subvert. However, then-President Trump went farther than simply tweeting his displeasure with the late-night comedians and SNL writers’ room. The internal discussions that followed, between the former leader of the free world and some of his political and legal advisers, once again underscored just how much Trump wanted to use the full weight and power of the U.S. government to punish his personal enemies.

According to two people familiar with the matter, Trump had asked advisers and lawyers in early 2019 about what the Federal Communications Commission, the courts systems, and—most confusingly to some Trump lieutenants—the Department of Justice could do to probe or mitigate SNL, Jimmy Kimmel, and other late-night comedy mischief-makers.


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Re: Plain old Trump Watch.

#104  Postby Seabass » Jun 30, 2021 11:13 pm

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#105  Postby Spearthrower » Jun 30, 2021 11:20 pm

Fox news is making hay of Trump being invited to attend a border security briefing in Texas.

Fox News YT comments section is full of people who are sure that Trump's attendance is tacit admission that Trump is still the President.
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#106  Postby Alan C » Jul 02, 2021 12:16 am

Here's a perhaps rhetorical question; should the fraudster fascist actually find himself in significant inescapable legal jeopardy would his cult members be insane enough to violently interfere?
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#107  Postby Spearthrower » Jul 02, 2021 2:41 am

I imagine that's exactly the consideration.
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#108  Postby The_Piper » Jul 02, 2021 2:53 pm

Alan C wrote:Here's a perhaps rhetorical question; should the fraudster fascist actually find himself in significant inescapable legal jeopardy would his cult members be insane enough to violently interfere?

Some of them, no doubt.
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#109  Postby Hermit » Jul 02, 2021 10:37 pm

Donald Trump will probably never see the inside of a prison cell. There are plenty of fall guys who will do that on his behalf. But according to Kurt Eichenwald he may go comprehensively broke before the prosecutors in New York are through with their examination of his business practices. In a series of tweets Eichenwald explains why and how this will happen.
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#110  Postby Spearthrower » Jul 02, 2021 11:26 pm

I think the reason why he'll never go to jail is simply because he'll do anything and everything to drag it out, and die before he faces any conclusion. I know he's supposedly the healthiest man in the universe ever and will live until he's 200, but reality has a way of not giving a fuck how much you pay your coked up doctor to lie to people, and Trump's lard-arse doesn't look like he's going for many more years.
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#111  Postby Tero » Jul 06, 2021 4:03 pm

Trump has a good chance to deteriorate to a ridiculous (to trumpsters as well as already ridiculous to us) pathetic little man by 2024. The party on the other hand mainly needs him for the 2022 election. If Trumpsters are not motivated enough to show up and vote in 2020, we Democrats will keep the house and senate.
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#112  Postby Tero » Jul 06, 2021 4:08 pm

Hermit wrote:Donald Trump will probably never see the inside of a prison cell. There are plenty of fall guys who will do that on his behalf. But according to Kurt Eichenwald he may go comprehensively broke before the prosecutors in New York are through with their examination of his business practices. In a series of tweets Eichenwald explains why and how this will happen.


And Bill Cosby is out. There goes my hopes of the two of them sharing a cell.
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#113  Postby BlackBart » Jul 06, 2021 4:24 pm

Tero wrote:
Hermit wrote:Donald Trump will probably never see the inside of a prison cell. There are plenty of fall guys who will do that on his behalf. But according to Kurt Eichenwald he may go comprehensively broke before the prosecutors in New York are through with their examination of his business practices. In a series of tweets Eichenwald explains why and how this will happen.


And Bill Cosby is out. There goes my hopes of the two of them sharing a cell.


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#114  Postby The_Piper » Jul 06, 2021 5:09 pm

That's a reality tv show that I'd watch. And then probably have to turn off after 5 minutes and never watch again. :lol:
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#115  Postby Alan C » Jul 06, 2021 10:22 pm

You gotta do it Donnie, think of the ratings!
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#116  Postby Seabass » Aug 01, 2021 12:03 am


Timothy Snyder is an American author and historian. He is a professor of history at Yale University and a fellow at the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna.

He talks to Krishnan about the future of Trump and 'Trumpism', the rising influence of Russia and Britain's next move.


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#117  Postby Seabass » Aug 10, 2021 12:20 am

Litigation Tracker: Pending Criminal and Civil Cases Against Donald Trump
https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/

There's so many!
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#118  Postby Seabass » Aug 27, 2021 6:19 am

The officer who shot Ashli Babbitt is black. Those fucking fascists are going to kill this guy for doing his job.

In an exclusive interview with Lester Holt, Capitol Police Lieutenant Michael Byrd describes why he’s choosing to identify himself. Byrd shares his account of the January 6 riot, as officers barricaded the door and he fired a single shot, killing Ashli Babbitt.

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#119  Postby Seabass » Sep 14, 2021 9:28 pm

74 million voted for this deranged moron.

Woodward/Costa book: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took secret action to protect nuclear weapons

Washington(CNN)Two days after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, President Donald Trump's top military adviser, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, single-handedly took secret action to limit Trump from potentially ordering a dangerous military strike or launching nuclear weapons, according to "Peril," a new book by legendary journalist Bob Woodward and veteran Washington Post reporter Robert Costa.

Woodward and Costa write that Milley, deeply shaken by the assault, 'was certain that Trump had gone into a serious mental decline in the aftermath of the election, with Trump now all but manic, screaming at officials and constructing his own alternate reality about endless election conspiracies.'

Milley worried that Trump could 'go rogue,' the authors write.

"You never know what a president's trigger point is," Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.

In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon's war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.

"No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I'm part of that procedure," Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood.

"Got it?" Milley asked, according to the book.

"Yes, sir."

'Milley considered it an oath,' the authors write.

"Peril" is based on more than 200 interviews with firsthand participants and witnesses, and it paints a chilling picture of Trump's final days in office. The book, Woodward's third on the Trump presidency, recounts behind-the-scenes moments of a commander in chief unhinged and explosive, yelling at senior advisers and aides as he desperately sought to cling to power.

It also includes exclusive reporting on the events leading up to January 6 and Trump's reaction to the insurrection, as well as newly revealed details about Trump's January 5 Oval Office showdown with his vice president, Mike Pence.

Woodward and Costa obtained documents, calendars, diaries, emails, meeting notes, transcripts and other records.

The book also examines Joe Biden's decision to run for office again; the first six months of his presidency; why he pushed so hard to get out of Afghanistan; and how he really feels about Trump. CNN obtained a copy of "Peril" ahead of its release on September 21.

Milley's fear was based on his own observations of Trump's erratic behavior. His concern was magnified by the events of January 6 and the 'extraordinary risk' the situation posed to US national security, the authors write. Milley had already had two back-channel phone calls with China's top general, who was on high alert over the chaos in the US.

Then Milley received a blunt phone call from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to the book. Woodward and Costa exclusively obtained a transcript of the call, during which Milley tried to reassure Pelosi that the nuclear weapons were safe.

Pelosi pushed back.

"What I'm saying to you is that if they couldn't even stop him from an assault on the Capitol, who even knows what else he may do? And is there anybody in charge at the White House who was doing anything but kissing his fat butt all over this?"

Pelosi continued, "You know he's crazy. He's been crazy for a long time."

According to Woodward and Costa, Milley responded, "Madam Speaker, I agree with you on everything."

After the call, Milley decided he had to act. He told his top service chiefs to watch everything "all the time." He called the director of the National Security Agency, Paul Nakasone, and told him, "Needles up ... keep watching, scan." And he told then-CIA Director Gina Haspel, "Aggressively watch everything, 360."

The authors write, 'Milley was overseeing the mobilization of America's national security state without the knowledge of the American people or the rest of the world.'

Woodward and Costa also write that 'some might contend that Milley had overstepped his authority and taken extraordinary power for himself,' but he believed his actions were 'a good faith precaution to ensure there was no historic rupture in the international order, no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons.'

Milley's fear that Trump could do something unpredictable came from experience. Right after Trump lost the election, Milley discovered the President had signed a military order to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan by January 15, 2021, before he left the White House.

The memo had been secretly drafted by two Trump loyalists. No one on the national security team knew about it, according to the book. The memo was eventually nullified, but Milley could not forget that Trump had done an end run around his top military advisers.

Woodward and Costa write that after January 6, Milley 'felt no absolute certainty that the military could control or trust Trump and believed it was his job as the senior military officer to think the unthinkable and take any and all necessary precautions.'

Milley called it the 'absolute darkest moment of theoretical possibility,' the authors write.

"Peril" is one of several books released this year that have documented the tumultuous final days of Trump's presidency. In "I Alone Can Fix It," Washington Post reporters Phil Rucker and Carol Leonnig detailed how Milley discussed a plan with the Joint Chiefs to resist potential illegal orders from Trump amid fears that he or his allies might attempt a coup.

Woodward and Costa write that top national security officials were worried Trump might pull a "Wag the Dog" -- provoking a conflict domestically or abroad to distract from his crushing election loss.

When Trump refused to concede in November 2020, Haspel warned Milley, "We are on the way to a right-wing coup. The whole thing is insanity. He is acting out like a six-year-old with a tantrum." Haspel also worried that Trump would try to attack Iran.

"This is a highly dangerous situation. We are going to lash out for his ego?" she asked Milley, according to the book.

Even some of Trump's most loyal advisers privately expressed concern after the election. Then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told Milley that Trump was "in a very dark place right now."

Milley had just one goal: ensuring a peaceful transfer of power on January 20. As he told Pompeo, "We've got a plane with four engines and three of them are out. We've got no landing gear. But we're going to land this plane and we're going to land it safely."


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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-book-trump-nuclear/index.html

When Pence refused to go along with Trump's coup, Trump said "I don't want to be your friend anymore."
Apparently, Pence had been wavering on whether or not to go along with the coup, and fucking Dan Quayle talked him out of it. We were saved by Dan Fucking Quayle. :doh:
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Re: Plain old Trump Watch.

#120  Postby Alan C » Sep 15, 2021 4:47 am

Almost makes you miss the good old days of 'freedom fries' and the like.
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