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Preacher Wandering Around Walmart With An Assault Riflle

#1  Postby DoctorE » Aug 21, 2013 11:24 am

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If you go shopping in Huntsville, Texas, you’re likely to run into a local preacher with an assault rifle slung across his back. Beginning last week, Pastor Terry Holcomb started posting videos of himself wandering into local businesses with an AR-15 Bushmaster rifle — the same weapon used to kill 20 children and six adults in the Newtown, Connecticut school shooting.

In one video, Holcomb wanders about a Walmart for several minutes before he is approached by two store employees and asked to leave. He argues briefly with those two employees until a manager approaches and threatens to call the police if he does not exit the store.


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#2  Postby Fenrir » Aug 21, 2013 11:43 am

Nothing says 'gawd wants y'all to come te him o yer own free will' like an assault rifle.
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#3  Postby zulumoose » Aug 21, 2013 12:45 pm

Perfect example of stoopid.

He is trying to support 2nd amendment rights, by exercising those rights in a fairly extreme way to test the boundaries and 'educate' people into what the rights allow.

He cannot see that peoples natural reaction to this will encourage disapproval of it, that he is doing more harm than good to his own cause?

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#4  Postby theropod » Aug 21, 2013 12:51 pm

Fuck!

This is the type of shit that just doesn't parse for me. Why not a well tuned slide action (pump) shotgun? If I anticipated deadly contact inside a Wally-World a rifle wouldn't be my choice because;

1. I'm a single shooter possibly facing multiple opponents. A shotgun swings from target to target quickly, not requiring precise aim to be effective. Designed to shoot birds on the wing, and all that.

2.Getting hits with a single projectile when there are steel shelves and such offering deflecting opportunities is difficult in a close quarters fire fight.

3. 12 gauge "OO" buckshot (.30"~) in a standard 2.75" load will contain 9 pellets, and a 3" load contains 12. At 30 yards the pattern spread of such a load is about the size of the human torso, and gets smaller and more intense as the distance is reduced. This load can, and has, killed deer out to near 100 yards in a properly choked shotgun. Even with body armor this load could break ribs and inflict massive internal shock. Limb, and head, hits outside armor can be debilitating if not lethal.

4. A Remington model 870 can be modified to store far more than the standard 5 rounds via a magazine tube/spring replacement, and there is a you-tube video of a guy shooting a Benelli pump gun 10 times without reloading. Dropping a fresh round in the open ejection port and jacking the action closed takes less than a second, and ramming fresh ammo into the loading tube can be done very quickly.

5. A well made pump action shotgun, in the hands of one familiar with the weapon, is almost impossible to jam. Even after extended shooting, to the point the barrel will burn ya, these guns just keep shooting. Mixing loads only impacts the downrange effects, and felt recoil is increased, and these guns just work.

- - - - - - - - - :nono:

Luckily I don't live in such a delusional state that I think I need to carry a combat ready weapon into Wally-World. Most people have no fucking idea what it's like to be in a fire fight, and the notion of a lone shooter taking on a "death squad" or meth crew, and surviving, is stupid. If that idiot thinks he's helping protect folks he's beyond hope. With all the crazy shit going on in the world why wouldn't just about everyone freak if they saw this? Hell, It freaks me out, and I am a gun owner.

20+ years ago I bought a stainless steel muzzle loading rifle at Wally-World. They walked me to the front door to make sure folks didn't freak. I can't imagine what store security thought with this fundite pretending to be Rambo walking around.

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#5  Postby Acetone » Aug 21, 2013 12:55 pm

Can't you buy guns in walmart in Texas?
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#6  Postby lobawad » Aug 21, 2013 1:00 pm

I have more respect for unbridled yahoos like this than for the slimy hypocritical preachers I've known in my life.
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#7  Postby theropod » Aug 21, 2013 1:04 pm

Acetone wrote:Can't you buy guns in walmart in Texas?


I'm sure, but I think it's Wally-World policy to walk these out in the box where ever they sell guns.

lobawad wrote:I have more respect for unbridled yahoos like this than for the slimy hypocritical preachers I've known in my life.


Yeah, same here. But damn!

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#8  Postby zulumoose » Aug 21, 2013 1:10 pm

Acetone wrote:Can't you buy guns in walmart in Texas?


I think at one point they actually walk past a counter with guns on display.
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#9  Postby laklak » Aug 21, 2013 1:25 pm

theropod wrote:Fuck!

This is the type of shit that just doesn't parse for me. Why not a well tuned slide action (pump) shotgun? If I anticipated deadly contact inside a Wally-World a rifle wouldn't be my choice because; ...


Couldn't agree more, Theropod. Pump action 12 gauge is the only way to go in a retail combat scenario. I'd add a handgun for backup, in case the meth-crew zombies get me cornered in the bathrooms. My choice would be a Kel pmr30. The .22 Magnum cartridge is sufficient for close quarters work and the 30 round magazine gives you a lot of lead to indiscriminately spray around. As last resorts I'd have a sap in my pocket and a Ka-Bar in a leg sheath.

But seriously folks, doesn't this idiot see that all he's doing is further polarizing public opinion? Carrying around a Bushmaster, the go-to platform for urban Rambo wannabes, is only going to make things worse for serious gun owners. I would certainly beat feet if I saw some redneck carrying one around Wally World.
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#10  Postby laklak » Aug 21, 2013 1:27 pm

Acetone wrote:Can't you buy guns in walmart in Texas?


Not just in Texas, you can in most of the South. They're locked up, of course, as is ammunition.
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#11  Postby The_Metatron » Aug 21, 2013 1:33 pm

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Fuck!

This is the type of shit that just doesn't parse for me. Why not a well tuned slide action (pump) shotgun? If I anticipated deadly contact inside a Wally-World a rifle wouldn't be my choice because;

1. I'm a single shooter possibly facing multiple opponents. A shotgun swings from target to target quickly, not requiring precise aim to be effective. Designed to shoot birds on the wing, and all that.

2.Getting hits with a single projectile when there are steel shelves and such offering deflecting opportunities is difficult in a close quarters fire fight.

3. 12 gauge "OO" buckshot (.30"~) in a standard 2.75" load will contain 9 pellets, and a 3" load contains 12. At 30 yards the pattern spread of such a load is about the size of the human torso, and gets smaller and more intense as the distance is reduced. This load can, and has, killed deer out to near 100 yards in a properly choked shotgun. Even with body armor this load could break ribs and inflict massive internal shock. Limb, and head, hits outside armor can be debilitating if not lethal.

4. A Remington model 870 can be modified to store far more than the standard 5 rounds via a magazine tube/spring replacement, and there is a you-tube video of a guy shooting a Benelli pump gun 10 times without reloading. Dropping a fresh round in the open ejection port and jacking the action closed takes less than a second, and ramming fresh ammo into the loading tube can be done very quickly.

5. A well made pump action shotgun, in the hands of one familiar with the weapon, is almost impossible to jam. Even after extended shooting, to the point the barrel will burn ya, these guns just keep shooting. Mixing loads only impacts the downrange effects, and felt recoil is increased, and these guns just work.

- - - - - - - - - :nono:

Luckily I don't live in such a delusional state that I think I need to carry a combat ready weapon into Wally-World. Most people have no fucking idea what it's like to be in a fire fight, and the notion of a lone shooter taking on a "death squad" or meth crew, and surviving, is stupid. If that idiot thinks he's helping protect folks he's beyond hope. With all the crazy shit going on in the world why wouldn't just about everyone freak if they saw this? Hell, It freaks me out, and I am a gun owner.

20+ years ago I bought a stainless steel muzzle loading rifle at Wally-World. They walked me to the front door to make sure folks didn't freak. I can't imagine what store security thought with this fundite pretending to be Rambo walking around.

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#12  Postby Skinny Puppy » Aug 21, 2013 2:04 pm

What I find odd (well, I guess I really don’t) is that while Rambo is wandering around with an AR-15 Bushmaster rifle, people are walking by, driving by, having a friendly chat etc. and acting as if it’s just another normal day in Looneyville.

If anyone did that here we’d have a SWAT team on them in a flash.

It is me, or is there something “horribly” wrong with what I just watched? :think:
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#13  Postby DougC » Aug 21, 2013 2:10 pm

I know American English differs from British English, so in America does 'Preacher' mean 'twat'.
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#14  Postby The_Metatron » Aug 21, 2013 2:19 pm

Skinny Puppy wrote:What I find odd (well, I guess I really don’t) is that while Rambo is wandering around with an AR-15 Bushmaster rifle, people are walking by, driving by, having a friendly chat etc. and acting as if it’s just another normal day in Looneyville.

If anyone did that here we’d have a SWAT team on them in a flash.

It is me, or is there something “horribly” wrong with what I just watched? :think:

I agree with your assessment.
DougC wrote:I know American English differs from British English, so in America does 'Preacher' mean 'twat'.

Oh, come on. It means twat in Britain, also.
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#15  Postby Weaver » Aug 21, 2013 3:46 pm

Not only is the idiot walking around with a rifle for no reason than freaking people out, he doesn't have the fucking safety on.

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#16  Postby Onyx8 » Aug 21, 2013 3:48 pm

Someone should walk up behind him and pull the trigger.
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#17  Postby Weaver » Aug 21, 2013 3:49 pm

I'd be more tempted to pop his magazine out - slung crosswise over his back he simply cannot control the weapon properly and safely.
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#18  Postby Onyx8 » Aug 21, 2013 3:50 pm

Spoilsport.
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#19  Postby Weaver » Aug 21, 2013 4:07 pm

Reminds me of an idiot Sergeant I worked with once - we were in the field, training, and I was assigned to "aggress" against his section, conducting a fake attack (we didn't have live ammo, of course, nor even blanks, so it was "bang, bang, you're dead" time). This idiot came around the corner of his truck with his weapon slung like the dipshit above, said "bang bang, you're dead" - and looked offended when I busted out laughing in his face, slowly pointed my rifle at him, and pulled the trigger.

He says "You can't shoot me when you're dead!"

I replied "You can't shoot me with your fucking weapon on your back."

The First Sergeant, observing the whole mess, said, "Well, Sergeant, the Specialist (me) is right - now take the sling off your weapon for the rest of the field training exercise so you learn where your weapon needs to be if you want to shoot someone with it."
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#20  Postby theropod » Aug 21, 2013 4:27 pm

The_Metatron wrote:snip...

I know where you live. It most certainly is a delusional state. Pretty, but delusional.


Well, the geographic location may be a delusional state, but I, personally, try very hard not to reside in such a never-never land of the mind. I should have made that quite clear. Besides, The_Metatron, I've got an excuse (*see below).

Yes, Arkansas is pretty (parts are anyway), and this summer is far outside our norm. It was hot early in the summer, but it has rained far more than normal and everything is exceptionally lush.

*Perhaps I shouldn't be posting under the influence of hydrocodone, presc. strength naproxen, and cyclobenzaprine, (nice cocktail BTW) but it feels better sitting in my desk chair than anywhere else but bed. Fucking lower back. Never had issues with my back before now, and it sucks. I was supposed to play in a real PGA sanctioned 72 hole golf tournament starting tomorrow and ending Sunday. I couldn't putt if I had to, much less get around with my driver. Doesn't look to good for that happening, and I can kiss my entry fee bye-bye. I may go and serve as moral support to my buddies that are playing, but I sure couldn't drive a vehicle to the course with all these chemicals racing about my CNS, and I doubt wife would enjoy hanging out and worrying about my crazy ass doing something else totally stupid. So y'all will just have to suffer through my BS posts until I get off the grade A dope (these are some large pill bottles that will last a while)

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