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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18841  Postby zulumoose » Feb 18, 2020 6:43 am

I agree with pretty much all of that.

It is absolutely flabbergasting that
perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think

‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’


This is what is most disturbing about Trump, and other symptoms of the slide backwards towards nasty populist right wing politics in some countries in recent years (yes Brexit - I'm looking at you too).

It shows us that a significant percentage of the general population are much worse than we would like to believe, and I suspect the only thing that keeps them in the background is that until people like this surface, they think politics is boring and a lot of them don't have any interest in voting or voicing their opinions in public.

So, perhaps one solution is to keep politics as boring as possible. Otherwise you have to go to all the trouble of rousing decent people to action, to outnumber the frothy of mouth and dim of wit.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18842  Postby Alan C » Feb 18, 2020 8:45 am

Indeed, I'd only quibble about the beginning. I don't think it's merely a case of pointing out his flaws to belittle him, it's more like "Holy fuck this guy is in serious mental decline and he's the fucking POTUS?!"
I mean, there's only the minor matters of a virus, middle east tensions, Ukraine, climate change to name a few. On his best day he'd be out of his depth and he's way beyond that.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18843  Postby Alan B » Feb 18, 2020 6:59 pm

Just watched 'Real Time' with Bill Maher. He and his guests actually commented on military intervention to oust Trump.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18844  Postby Alan C » Feb 18, 2020 11:14 pm

Speaking of the virus;

Officials debate what to tell Trump about the coronavirus outbreak

It was against this backdrop that the Washington Post had an interesting report over the weekend:

Although the United States has so far effectively contained the virus, some senior administration officials said there have been tensions within the administration over what information the president should receive, his posture toward China and what message to send to the American public.

All of this is obviously of great importance from a public-health perspective, but I was struck by the reporting that there's some behind-the-scenes disagreement between administration officials over what they want Trump to know about the emergency. I never worked in the Obama White House, but from what I gather, his team never quarreled over "what information the president should receive" when dealing with the Ebola threat in 2014, for example.


The Post's article went on to note that the president's perspective on the coronavirus outbreak has apparently been shaped in large part by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, who has reportedly told physicians "not to get too far into the details of the virus and the outbreak with Trump."
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18845  Postby SafeAsMilk » Feb 19, 2020 12:02 am

zulumoose wrote:I agree with pretty much all of that.

It is absolutely flabbergasting that
perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think

‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’


This is what is most disturbing about Trump, and other symptoms of the slide backwards towards nasty populist right wing politics in some countries in recent years (yes Brexit - I'm looking at you too).

It shows us that a significant percentage of the general population are much worse than we would like to believe, and I suspect the only thing that keeps them in the background is that until people like this surface, they think politics is boring and a lot of them don't have any interest in voting or voicing their opinions in public.

So, perhaps one solution is to keep politics as boring as possible. Otherwise you have to go to all the trouble of rousing decent people to action, to outnumber the frothy of mouth and dim of wit.

That's kinda what it looks like. No putting that cat in the bag now, though. The parasites know they can win by riling up the drooling idiots who spend their time eating spaghetti with butter ketchup, going to Walmart and watching reality TV, so that's what they'll keep on doing. Our media can't help themselves from feeding into it cuz ratings. The only real solution is making people better informed, getting real information out over the noise. Unfortunately that takes lots of time and effort, and being willfully stupid is something of a national pastime.
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#18846  Postby The_Piper » Feb 19, 2020 12:07 am

I guess it's no mystery that Donald Trump can't be talked to like an adult.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18847  Postby Tero » Feb 19, 2020 1:03 am

Trump and Obama.
It all started at the correspondents dinner.
Now this
https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/video ... 29173.html
humor http://karireport.blogspot.com/
serious http://esapolitics.blogspot.com/

How American politics goes
1 Republicans cut tax, let everything run down to barely working...8 years
2 Democrats fix public spending to normal...8 years
Rinse, repeat.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18848  Postby Spearthrower » Feb 19, 2020 7:25 pm

Jesus fucking wept...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51566470

A witness in Julian Assange's extradition hearing will claim President Donald Trump offered the Wikileaks founder a pardon if he said Russia was not involved in leaking emails during the US election.



I swear they could impeach him once a week with all the ridiculous shit he pulls.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18849  Postby Animavore » Feb 19, 2020 7:58 pm

Image

Trumpism is a cult.
A most evolved electron.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18850  Postby Seabass » Feb 19, 2020 11:35 pm

Republicans are fucking evil. And yes I mean it in the supernatural sense. I mean, what, other than demonic possession, can explain Republicans?

Trump administration using confidential therapists' notes against migrant children
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/02/18/lead-hannah-dreier-live-jake-tapper.cnn

The government required him to see a therapist. He thought his words would be confidential. Now, the traumatized migrant may be deported.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18851  Postby Seabass » Feb 19, 2020 11:46 pm

Trump loves criminals, and criminals love Trump!

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18852  Postby chango369 » Feb 20, 2020 2:06 am

Animavore wrote:Image

Trumpism is a cult.


The guy that put that sign up is a Trump critic.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/god-b ... rump-sign/
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18853  Postby The_Metatron » Feb 20, 2020 3:26 pm

willhud9 wrote:So this weekend I went to visit my grandparents in Tennessee. They are your typical southern Baptist, country hospitality older couple. Today both my grandparents told me this will be their first election voting for a Democrat since Jimmy Carter. I asked them why and they said that they cannot in good faith vote for a dictator.

Made me proud to be their grandkid.

Did they vote to put him in office? I would reserve my pride.


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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18854  Postby mattthomas » Feb 20, 2020 3:44 pm

The_Metatron wrote:
willhud9 wrote:So this weekend I went to visit my grandparents in Tennessee. They are your typical southern Baptist, country hospitality older couple. Today both my grandparents told me this will be their first election voting for a Democrat since Jimmy Carter. I asked them why and they said that they cannot in good faith vote for a dictator.

Made me proud to be their grandkid.

Did they vote to put him in office? I would reserve my pride.


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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18855  Postby Scot Dutchy » Feb 20, 2020 5:20 pm

Really?
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18856  Postby aban57 » Feb 20, 2020 8:24 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Really?


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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18857  Postby jamest » Feb 20, 2020 11:24 pm

At the end of the day, we vote for presidents and prime ministers who WILL dictate. Otherwise, what's the point?

If your grandparents had said they cannot in good faith vote for someone who has proved himself to be a complete tosser, there'd be more reason to be proud.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18858  Postby jamest » Feb 20, 2020 11:32 pm

If Churchill hadn't been so sure of himself Germany would probably have won WW2. A sobering thought.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18859  Postby Tortured_Genius » Feb 20, 2020 11:43 pm

jamest wrote:At the end of the day, we vote for presidents and prime ministers who WILL dictate. Otherwise, what's the point?


We don't vote for the PM though - we vote for political parties. Even in the US they vote for party delegates who then vote on who should be president.

Neither has a mandate to dictate.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#18860  Postby Alan C » Feb 20, 2020 11:45 pm

Trump's not sure of himself though, he vacillates between one position and another depending on who spoke to him last.
Recently he claimed to be a champion of law reform but soon after declared that non-violent drug dealers should be executed.
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