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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20181  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Oct 01, 2020 2:32 am

Hermit wrote:Rightwingers love strong leaders.


There is no strength in anything Donald Trump has ever done. Rightwingers don't know what the fuck strength even means.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20182  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Oct 01, 2020 2:44 am

What we saw last night was orchestrated by Trump and his campaign. Make no mistake, he did prep for this and he carried it out just as his campaign had hoped.

They knew there was no chance of wining a fair and logical debate with Biden so their goal was

1: Avoid answering any of the questions by making accusations against Biden instead, hiding the fact that Donald Trump is a fucking dumbshit.
2: Shout over Biden so no one will hear his reasoned arguments as to why he is the right choice for President.
3: Lure Biden into a shouting match so the "both sides" argument could lessen the impact of him being such a fucking ass.

They largely succeeded.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20183  Postby Fenrir » Oct 01, 2020 2:50 am

CdesignProponentsist wrote:
Hermit wrote:Rightwingers love strong leaders.


There is no strength in anything Donald Trump has ever done. Rightwingers don't know what the fuck strength even means.


Here's the problem.

They know exactly what strength is.

It's just that their definition varies from yours.

Theirs includes bullying and belittling shouting and lying and cheating as long as you get away with it, and often even then.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20184  Postby Fenrir » Oct 01, 2020 2:56 am

Hermit wrote:The debates won't hurt Trump. As he said, he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue...

Look at his approval rating. After almost four years of fucking things up, his approval rating is almost 7 percentage points higher than after almost four years of fucking things up. It is as though an increasing number of US citizens approve of his fuck-ups. His racism, sexism, nepotism and encouragement of fascists are not fuck-ups to them. They love what he is doing, and shit like not paying taxes, riding roughshod over whatever he doesn't like makes him a strong leader. Rightwingers love strong leaders. Trump is their man, regardless of what he does.


Um... They aren't fuckups. Not to them or anyone else. Trump is a racist, sexist, nepotistic fascist.

A few dumbocrats tried pretending he wasn't for a bit coz they couldn't see how anyone as broken as him could gain power. And I don't blame them.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20185  Postby Hermit » Oct 01, 2020 3:13 am

Fenrir wrote:
Hermit wrote:The debates won't hurt Trump. As he said, he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue...

Look at his approval rating. After almost four years of fucking things up, his approval rating is almost 7 percentage points higher than after almost four years of fucking things up. It is as though an increasing number of US citizens approve of his fuck-ups. His racism, sexism, nepotism and encouragement of fascists are not fuck-ups to them. They love what he is doing, and shit like not paying taxes, riding roughshod over whatever he doesn't like makes him a strong leader. Rightwingers love strong leaders. Trump is their man, regardless of what he does.

Um... They aren't fuckups. Not to them or anyone else. Trump is a racist, sexist, nepotistic fascist.

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20186  Postby Animavore » Oct 01, 2020 12:48 pm

Asked at yesterday’s presidential debate if he would condemn white supremacist violence by groups like the Proud Boys, President Trump was defiant, remarking: “Almost everything I see is from the left-wing, not the right-wing.” But that very same day, the FBI issued an intelligence report warning of an imminent “violent extremist threat” posed by a far-right militia that includes white supremacists—identifying the current election period up to the 2021 inauguration as a “potential flashpoint.”

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#20187  Postby Animavore » Oct 01, 2020 1:01 pm

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20188  Postby Alan C » Oct 01, 2020 9:17 pm

There's a school of thought that this was part of an ongoing deliberate and mendacious effort to turn people off and away from politics, to cause people to disengage and just be apathetic. If the mango maniac caused enough damage the others would be canceled. The debates should go ahead and not allow Team Twittler to delegitimise them. Not sure what the recourse is if they balk at proposed changes to the structure [despite said maniac breaking rules set for the first debate].
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20189  Postby Animavore » Oct 01, 2020 9:29 pm

Well if that was the plan it's backfired, surely?

Apparently individual campaign donations went through the roof for Biden during the debate. Over 30 million to my recollection. Loads more corporate donors also applied. 10s of thousands of campaign volunteers signed up.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20190  Postby Alan C » Oct 01, 2020 9:54 pm

True.
I did just see a veteran pollster opine that if there were no more debates it would be surrendering to Biden so what do you do?
He had a session with a group of undecided voters. I have a hard time accepting that there is still a significant number undecided voters but the explanation given is that, somehow, they're both mortified at Trump but don't know what Biden is going to do.
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Worse, they might not vote.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20191  Postby Animavore » Oct 01, 2020 10:00 pm

This is what makes me bang my head against the wall the most and shows how Trump controls the narrative.


-They're mortified with Trump but... I dunno about Joe so... Fuck it?-


It drives me up the wall. The full stop, period, should come after the sentence about being mortified by Trump yet somehow the second, should be irrelevant question, makes them doubt.
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#20192  Postby Spinozasgalt » Oct 02, 2020 12:42 am

Hope HIcks got the COVID.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20193  Postby Caper » Oct 02, 2020 1:30 am

Alan C wrote:There's a school of thought that this was part of an ongoing deliberate and mendacious effort to turn people off and away from politics, to cause people to disengage and just be apathetic. If the mango maniac caused enough damage the others would be canceled. The debates should go ahead and not allow Team Twittler to delegitimise them. Not sure what the recourse is if they balk at proposed changes to the structure [despite said maniac breaking rules set for the first debate].


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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20194  Postby Alan C » Oct 02, 2020 2:52 am

They were a suggestion, like pants.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20195  Postby The_Piper » Oct 02, 2020 5:26 am

Masks were only a recommendation. Fucking morons. Complete fucking idiots. Germs, how do they work? Tide goes in, tide goes out, you can't explain it! :picard:
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20196  Postby OlivierK » Oct 02, 2020 5:27 am

Trump, inveterate liar, announces he has COVID on Twitter. Who the fuck knows?

Hopefully, people can cover this story without diverting away from his debate performance, tax scandal, Supreme Court hypocrisy, poor polling, and the Melania tapes. If he recovers swiftly, who gives a fuck if he has it. If he ends up in ICU or dead, THEN it's a story.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20197  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Oct 02, 2020 5:30 am

Check out the responses to his Rona announcement. People are praying for him.

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20198  Postby quas » Oct 02, 2020 5:32 am

OlivierK wrote:Trump, inveterate liar, announces he has COVID on Twitter. Who the fuck knows?


There's only one way to find out. Give him bleach injection. If he refuses, that means he lies.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20199  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Oct 02, 2020 5:44 am

OlivierK wrote:Trump, inveterate liar, announces he has COVID on Twitter. Who the fuck knows?

Hopefully, people can cover this story without diverting away from his debate performance, tax scandal, Supreme Court hypocrisy, poor polling, and the Melania tapes. If he recovers swiftly, who gives a fuck if he has it. If he ends up in ICU or dead, THEN it's a story.

I hope this isn't some stunt to 'prove' Covid isn't that big of a deal or that Trump is so strong he heals from it within a couple of days.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#20200  Postby BlackBart » Oct 02, 2020 7:04 am

I hope Melania recovers. :coffee:
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