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Re: President Trump Watch.

#81  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Nov 10, 2016 8:52 pm

ScholasticSpastic wrote:Just a part of his sociopathy. He'll cover his own arse, but I doubt he'll take any steps that serve people beyond himself. He got elected denying climate change to a Presidency as head of the climate change denial party, switching to acceptance isn't going to do him any good regardless of what he really thinks. Much cheaper to spend real capital building a seawall to protect your own golf course than it is to spend political capital trying to save a world full of "losers and haters."

Spending political capital will not deplete his wallet. We'll see of which he is more fond of.
* my (modified) emphasis ( or 'interpretation' )

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#82  Postby ScholasticSpastic » Nov 10, 2016 8:56 pm

Agi Hammerthief wrote:
Spending political capital will not deplete his wallet. We'll see of which he is more fond of.

Everything about the Trumpening has surprised me so far. I'll not insist I'm right about this. :shifty:
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#83  Postby Corneel » Nov 10, 2016 9:03 pm

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#84  Postby WayOfTheDodo » Nov 10, 2016 9:48 pm

Sendraks wrote:
chairman bill wrote:And that's why the Democrats should have run with Bernie Sanders, not Clinton.

Yes but, as others here have already analysed in detail, Bernie should have run a better campaign to engage with voters. His campaign was actually pretty poor at the "feet on the ground" engagement and his support mainly came from those already signed up to Bernie's message. Sure the DNC didn't help matters but, its clear Bernie didn't run as robust a campaign as he could have.

Didn't Bernie kind of ease slowly into the race, though? He didn't have the kind of organization that, say, Obama did from the start. He was working on building it, though.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#85  Postby WayOfTheDodo » Nov 10, 2016 9:57 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Imagine the attacks on Bernie's health and the lack of achievement.

So? People didn't vote trump because they were pissed off at Hillary's health or achievements. (OK, they were pissed off at her being part of the Establishment and screwing them over, but this would not affect Bernie.)
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#86  Postby WayOfTheDodo » Nov 10, 2016 10:21 pm

lofuji wrote:The American electorate has just performed a collective blowjob on a .44 Magnum. I don't know whether to be horrified or whether to simply sit back and watch the show. Schadenfreude is a wonderful thing.

You really think this won't affect the rest of the world?
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#87  Postby DougC » Nov 10, 2016 11:47 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-37939588

B.B.C. Article
What does Trump win mean for US science?
President-elect Donald Trump did not express many views about science and innovation on the campaign trail. But there are some clues to his positions on key issues.
Since Tuesday, many scientists have been laying out their concerns about the future of the US research community under a Trump administration.
Before the election, the non-profit organisation Science Debate asked the main candidates to outline their positions on different scientific points.
Mr Trump's vision for innovation in the country that currently spends most in the world on research and development reflects his businessman's perspective.
"Innovation has always been one of the great by-products of free market systems. Entrepreneurs have always found entries into markets by giving consumers more options for the products they desire," he explained.
But some in the scientific community are fearful about funding for basic research - fundamental science aimed at bettering our understanding of the world around us.

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#88  Postby ScholasticSpastic » Nov 10, 2016 11:57 pm

With Trump in the White House and a Republican Congress, we're almost certain to fall behind the rest of the world in the areas of education and research. While research may become a going concern again under future administrations, they'll likely have to hire scientists from abroad to make up for our having dropped the ball on education.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#89  Postby Animavore » Nov 11, 2016 12:36 am

RALEIGH, N.C. — While one report of Ku Klux Klan activity in North Carolina after Donald Trump’s election as president was debunked, the real KKK has announced a rally in the state.

Trump, a Republican, was officially endorsed by the KKK during his campaign against Hillary Clinton, a Democrat. Trump won North Carolina on his way to winning the presidency, defeating Clinton in the state by nearly 5 percentage points.

Details on the rally celebrating Trump’s victory are scarce. It’s being held by The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which is based in Pelham — a small, unincorporated community about 45 minutes north of Burlington, near the Virginia border.

The group was behind a rally in South Carolina last year protesting the removal of the Confederate flag from the state Capitol building.

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#90  Postby quas » Nov 11, 2016 3:48 am

US dollar is rising rapidly against other currencies, seems like Trump has succeeded in making America great again.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#91  Postby mcgruff » Nov 11, 2016 4:08 am

Trump is an egotist. The campaign, the rapt attention of cheering crowds, the triumph over political elites which mocked him must have been one of the high points of his life. But what happens in a year or two when the high starts to wear off and the addict needs another fix? After the White House, where is there left for an egomaniac to go?

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#92  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Nov 11, 2016 4:40 am

Trump just announced Chris Christie's cabinet position. He's going to be the wall.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#93  Postby quas » Nov 11, 2016 6:13 am

mcgruff wrote:Trump is an egotist. The campaign, the rapt attention of cheering crowds, the triumph over political elites which mocked him must have been one of the high points of his life. But what happens in a year or two when the high starts to wear off and the addict needs another fix? After the White House, where is there left for an egomaniac to go?

To war.


If that's what it takes to boost the economy...
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#94  Postby Acetone » Nov 11, 2016 6:46 am

How's the economy of America doing anyway? Just for future reference.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#95  Postby cyghost » Nov 11, 2016 7:13 am

I predict this threat will deliver in the next 4 years or so...
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#96  Postby tuco » Nov 11, 2016 7:37 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Will Donald Trump destroy America?

With Democrats defeated and Republicans scared to step out of line, Donald Trump’s control over the three branches of the US government means this horror show hasn’t yet begun

Always quick to get to the point, social media came up with an instant distillation of the global response to the improbable, unsettling election of Donald Trump as president of the United States: #RIPAmerica.

That hashtag declared that we had witnessed something more than a simple change of government. (Such a slogan would not have circulated had Mitt Romney beaten Barack Obama in 2012.) Instead, it implied that Trump had not merely taken over the running of the United States for four years, but that his presidency represented a much darker threat – that it would, in fact, destroy the country.

Of course, Twitter is prone to the hyperbolic and hysterical. But more sober commentators were raising a similar prospect, albeit in not quite such stark terms. David Remnick, the editor of the New Yorker, spoke for many when he wrote: “The election of Donald Trump to the presidency is nothing less than a tragedy for the American republic, a tragedy for the constitution, and a … sickening event in the history of the United States and liberal democracy … It is impossible to react to this moment with anything less than revulsion and profound anxiety.” For the millions who shared that sentiment, dawn on Wednesday felt like mourning in America.

What they fear is that Trump will make good on all the promises – and threats – he made during these last 18 months. What if he goes ahead and deports 11.3 million undocumented migrants? What if he really does ban all Muslims entering the country? What if he tries to use the powers of the state to go after media organisations that have criticised him – making life difficult for the businesses that own inquisitive newspapers such as the Washington Post, for example – as he has said he will? What if he overturns abortion rights, even imposing “some form of punishment” on a woman who terminates a pregnancy, as he once suggested? And what if he really does build that wall?

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Is it just me but this is my picture of the future. The guy is mentally ill.


Out of curiosity, again, how would he do that? I am ignorant of the US system so feel free to enlighten me. He writes a memo or orders army or what?

And again, I find fascinating what the US Americans, and others, take from this. The morals of the story is anything else but .. maybe we should not give one person so much power. You give one person power then when shit hits the fan you are hmm surprised? Fascinating.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#97  Postby Scot Dutchy » Nov 11, 2016 12:11 pm

I liked this bit of total hypocrisy:

Earlier this month, after failing to win special approval from the national government for the structure, Trump re-submitted a planning application with the Clare County Council seeking permission to build the wall, which would consist of 200,000 tons of rock distributed along two miles of beach. As part of the application, Trump International Golf Links submitted an environmental impact statement — prepared by an Irish environmental consultancy — which argues that erosion is likely to accelerate as sea levels rise more quickly.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#98  Postby Scot Dutchy » Nov 11, 2016 12:15 pm

What I understand Obama has made it quite easy for Trump to scrap many thing he Obama has done due to the use of executive orders as opposed to bills through Congress.
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Re: President Trump Watch.

#99  Postby Animavore » Nov 11, 2016 2:37 pm

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Re: President Trump Watch.

#100  Postby Warren Dew » Nov 11, 2016 3:05 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:What I understand Obama has made it quite easy for Trump to scrap many thing he Obama has done due to the use of executive orders as opposed to bills through Congress.

Yes. That's what happens when a president refuses to compromise.
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