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#381  Postby ronmcd » Sep 10, 2019 10:59 pm

Brilliant.


A 40-year Explosives Ordnance Disposal veteran estimated the depths of Beaufort Dyke erupt upwards of 2-3 times per month, and have been doing so for decades. The British Geological Survey confirms this using equipment tuned for earthquakes and other large-scale geological events, finding at least 47 seismic “events” in the area during the period of 1992 to 2004 alone. These so-called “events” are almost unquestionably accidental deep-water detonations. Ships are advised to steer well clear of the dumpsite, as the kinetic shock bubble of just one of these explosions could potentially crush a ship’s hull.

Even if we knew where these munitions were originally dumped, we do not know where they are now.

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#382  Postby Matt_B » Sep 10, 2019 11:20 pm

Let's not forget the last time BoJo wanted to build a bridge.

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#383  Postby felltoearth » Sep 11, 2019 3:10 am

Macdoc wrote:This is 12 KM and built to withstand ice as well

so 3 of these and no ice to deal with ...certainly possible ...

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Confederation Bridge

The Confederation Bridge joins the eastern Canadian provinces of Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick, making travel throughout the Maritimes easy and convenient. The curved, 12.9 kilometre (8 mile) long bridge is the longest in the world crossing ice-covered water, and continues to endure as one of Canada’s top engineering achievements of the 20th century.

The decision to replace the existing ferry service with a fixed link followed a heated debate throughout the 1980’s. Farmers, fishermen, tourism operators, and residents of Prince Edward Island had sharply contrasting opinions about how year-round access to the mainland would affect their way of life and livelihood. Eventually, it was decided that the debate would be settled at the polls. The federal department of Public Works and Government Services selected its favourite bridge design out of several proposals from the private sector, and on January 18, 1988, Premier Joseph Ghiz asked Prince Edward Islanders to make the final decision in a plebiscite. At the polls, 59.4% of Islanders voted “Yes” to a fixed link.

After four years of construction using crews of more than five thousand local workers, the Confederation Bridge opened to traffic on May 31, 1997.


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Would You Drive on the World’s Longest Sea-Crossing Bridge?
It’s 34 miles long and includes a four-mile undersea tunnel.


https://www.coastalliving.com/travel/lo ... idge-china


Bedrock depth is 35 meters below. Average height is about 40m above sea level. Hardly an engineering feat.

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#384  Postby mrjonno » Sep 11, 2019 7:00 am

How much trade/travel is there likely to be between Scotland and Northern Ireland?

The poorest part of the UK linking to the west coast of Scotland when most trade is likely to go far further south?
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#385  Postby Matt_B » Sep 11, 2019 8:48 am

Between forging ahead with Brexit and this I'd still take the bridge.

Even if technically impossible, it'd still be less of a waste of money.
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#386  Postby newolder » Sep 11, 2019 9:11 am

Not that this will change anything on its own but the highest civil court in Scotland: Parliament suspension ruled 'unlawful'
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#389  Postby ronmcd » Sep 11, 2019 9:48 am

Joanna Cherry QC MP and others for Judicial Review: Appeal allowed; the Prime Minister’s advice to HM the Queen that the UK Parliament should be prorogued was unlawful because it had the purpose of stymying Parliament. Summary of Judgment available here http://bit.ly/2lGFCbL

https://twitter.com/JudgesScotland/stat ... 4422542336
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#392  Postby ronmcd » Sep 11, 2019 9:54 am

There’s nothing opposition parties can do to recall Parliament - it’s at the discretion of the PM. Next step is the Supreme Court

But @IanBlackfordMP tells me: “Boris Johnson has got to see the error of his ways. He is not above the law”

https://twitter.com/thistlejohn/status/ ... 9066201089
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#393  Postby zerne » Sep 11, 2019 10:02 am

Apparently yes? Saw Keir Starmer calling on PM to reconvene Parliament. So probably no? Until appeal? I dunno.

I reckon the SNP should get in there and propose a bill on revoking article 50 on the fly.. :D
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#394  Postby ronmcd » Sep 11, 2019 10:20 am

Lord Carloway: "The true reason for the prorogation...[was] to stymie parliamentary scrutiny of the executive, which was a central pillar of the good governance principle enshrined in the constitution; this followed from the principles of democracy and the rule of law."


Let’s make no bones about this, these are some of the highest and most distinguished judges in Britain essentially calling the PM, his team and cabinet ministers liars- and saying they lied to the Queen.


This is bad for the Palace. The Queen relies on the sound and honest counsel from her prime minister not to put her in a position where she is acting a) politically b) controversially c) unlawfully. PM had already failed on A and B. C is a real kicker. Imagine they’re furious.


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#395  Postby ronmcd » Sep 11, 2019 10:22 am

No 10 spokesman distances himself from this alleged remark: "The legal activists choose the Scottish Courts for a reason".

[They are keen to avoid a politicising the judges row]

Says it will all be decided in Supreme Court next week

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#396  Postby ronmcd » Sep 11, 2019 10:23 am

Apropos of nothing much, the Court of Session in Edinburgh was founded in 1532, fully 175 years before the Union of the Parliaments brought Scotland and England together in 1707, and 244 years before the American Declaration of Independence in 1776.

https://twitter.com/BBCJamesCook/status ... 0369678337
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#397  Postby ronmcd » Sep 11, 2019 10:24 am

Many observers north of the border will feel that casting aspersions on the entire centuries-old Scottish judicial system is dangerous, even desperate, territory which is likely to be counter-productive for Number Ten in terms of the debate about independence.

https://twitter.com/BBCJamesCook/status ... 5116737537


Sources in No10 now hitting back at the Scottish judges, suggesting they are politically biased: "We note that last week the High Court in London did not rule that prorogation was unlawful. The legal activists choose the Scottish courts for a reason".

Activists who brought the case, including @JolyonMaugham, say they lodged it in the Scottish courts as England's High Court wasn't sitting in August.

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#399  Postby Alan B » Sep 11, 2019 10:57 am

So, Johnson effectively lied to the Queen and advised her that cancelling Parliament was necessary thereby involving her in, unwittingly perhaps, in a political decision. Which is not in her remit as Queen.

The phrase 'an act of treason' comes to mind.
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#400  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Sep 11, 2019 12:22 pm

Alan B wrote:So, Johnson effectively lied to the Queen and advised her that cancelling Parliament was necessary thereby involving her in, unwittingly perhaps, in a political decision. Which is not in her remit as Queen.

The phrase 'an act of treason' comes to mind.

Doesn't the UK have ministerial responsibility? If so, it doesn't matter whether the Queen was aware or not, Johnson is completely responsible.
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