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Re: Republican Watch

#1681  Postby The_Piper » Jan 15, 2021 8:24 pm

Tortured_Genius wrote:
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SafeAsMilk wrote:I guess I just don't understand what your point is, then. Could you sum it up for my dull, addled brain? :dopey:

My point was for the thread, not you. That risk of safety concerns wasn't a good reason for Republicans not voting to impeach Trump. I understand it and I wouldn't want to open up my family to those threats either, but I'm not a representative. It's an unfortunate risk of the job. I wouldn't vote to re-elect someone who legislated according to personal risk. Though I'm sure I already have in the past, but when the choices are bad and worse, what's a person to do.


The moment you modify your voting position directly based on the demands (or expectations) of an armed terrorist because of the threat of violence, then that terrorist has won. This is the sort of dilemma that was frequently faced by UK politicians during "the troubles" and appeasement never worked. You can negotiate, but if you give in to the threat of violence you just get more threats and more demands.

And, alas, the risk is part of the job - if you can't or won't accept the risk then you can no longer do the job. It's still a very real risk for any active MP. (The last MP to be murdered in such a manner was Jo Cox only a few years ago).

That's really sad, I don't recall hearing about that. I agree, which is why I think the Republicans who didn't vote for impeachment over concerns of safety were wrong to do that.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1682  Postby The_Piper » Jan 15, 2021 8:27 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a pain :hide: Apologies if I've misrepresented your position to the forum, it was not my intention.

Not a problem SAM, I just figured my point has been made now by other posters and you agreed with their wording, so I'm probably not clear enough. It was basically what Seabass said. :lol:
Seabass wrote:Think of the threats and harassment that congresswomen like Ilhan Omar and AOC get.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1683  Postby Seabass » Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

James Murdoch condemns 'profound damage' wreaked by US news media
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/james-murdoch-condemns-profound-damage-wreaked-by-us-news-media-20210116-p56ukn.html

Rupert Murdoch's son James has condemned American media outlets for unleashing "profound damage" on the United States and being complicit in the events that led to the pro-Trump insurgency in Washington earlier this month.

The junior Murdoch, who left his father's News Corporation last year citing disagreements over editorial content, said the storming of the Capitol was "proof positive that what we thought was dangerous is indeed very, very much so".

"Those outlets that propagate lies to their audience have unleashed insidious and uncontrollable forces that will be with us for years," he told London's Financial Times newspaper. "I hope that those people who didn't think it was that dangerous now understand, and that they stop."

He did not directly mention News Corporation or Fox News, the company's vociferous cable news channel now run by brother Lachlan Murdoch as chief executive and executive chairman.

James Murdoch has long expressed more progressive views than his father Rupert or older brother Lachlan, especially on the issue of climate change. He and his wife Kathryn each donated more than US$615,000 to Joe Biden's campaign for the presidency last year.

Following the Financial Times interview, Mr Murdoch and his wife released a statement taking aim at disinformation and those who spread it deliberately.

"Spreading disinformation – whether about the election, public health or climate change – has real world consequences," they wrote in the statement also reported by the FT.

"Many media property owners have as much responsibility for this as the elected officials who know the truth but choose instead to propagate lies.

"We hope the awful scenes we have all been seeing will finally convince those enablers to repudiate the toxic politics they have promoted once and forever."

Mr Murdoch also told the newspaper he believed there would be "a reckoning" for the news media industry, which was "being co-opted by forces that only want to stay in power".
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Re: Republican Watch

#1684  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 16, 2021 6:18 pm

It's one of those: ok, so...? points though, isn't it? Agreed, but what are we supposed to do? What is anyone supposed to do? News outlets have a constitutional freedom to lie - even if lying were made punishable somehow, it would be hard even to establish that it is a lie rather than an honestly believed falsehood - and if 'we' can take away 'their' right to say things that are wrong, what's to stop 'them' deciding that the things 'we' believe are false/lies when 'they' are in power?
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Re: Republican Watch

#1685  Postby Seabass » Jan 21, 2021 9:41 pm

Enough people voted for this birdbrain to send her to Congress.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Wrote That Pelosi and Hillary Clinton Orchestrate School Shootings Like Parkland

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) thinks a group of Satanic pedophiles running the government is more likely than a school shooting. At least, that’s what a 2018 Facebook comment from the now-congresswoman, uncovered by Media Matters on Tuesday, seems to imply. “I am told that Nancy Pelosi tells Hillary Clinton several times a month that ‘we need another school shooting’ in order to persuade the public to want strict gun control,’” Greene wrote. In another post, Greene implied the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida, which killed 17 people, was also orchestrated. Greene has a history of pushing crackpot theories, most notably the aforementioned QAnon conspiracy, as well as similarly unfounded theories that President Obama is secretly a Muslim and that no plane struck the Pentagon on 9/11. Most recently, she was suspended from Twitter for 12 hours for sharing lies about the 2020 election in Georgia.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1686  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jan 21, 2021 10:55 pm

I thought the cabal ate children in addition to sexually abusing them.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1687  Postby chairman bill » Jan 22, 2021 12:13 am

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:I thought the cabal ate children in addition to sexually abusing them.


How dare you! They all display perfectly good manners which preclude playing with their food
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Re: Republican Watch

#1688  Postby aban57 » Jan 25, 2021 2:52 pm

Interesting interview de of (stop typing messages in English during a meeting in French, idiot) Scaramucci, beyond the clickbait title.
Another evidence, if needed, that putting party above policy is one of the worst thing a politician can do.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1689  Postby The_Piper » Jan 25, 2021 5:25 pm

aban57 wrote:Interesting interview de of (stop typing messages in English during a meeting in French, idiot) Scaramucci, beyond the clickbait title.
Another evidence, if needed, that putting party above policy is one of the worst thing a politician can do.

I'm glad he's speaking out against Trump, however he's like the poster boy of right wing crony grifters. I'm listening to it, but taking what he says with a grain of salt. Look back to the crazy shit he was saying during his 10 day tenure as Trump's spokesperson. If he had any credibility before that, he spent it all then. :)
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Re: Republican Watch

#1690  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jan 25, 2021 5:36 pm

When a guy's nickname is "The Mooch", you know what you're getting.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1691  Postby chairman bill » Jan 25, 2021 6:04 pm

Act like a cunt and there's a good chance that sooner or later you're going to get fucked. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Bend over, Rudy.

Dominion Voting Systems sues Giuliani for $1.3bn over baseless election claims
Complaint accuses ex-mayor of having ‘manufactured and disseminated’ conspiracy theory related to voting machines

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/25/dominion-rudy-giuliani-lawsuit-election

Dominion Voting Systems, the voting equipment manufacturer at the centre of baseless election fraud conspiracy theories pushed by Donald Trump and his allies, has sued the former president’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani in a $1.3bn defamation lawsuit.

The 107-page complaint, filed in federal court on Monday, accuses the former New York City mayor of having “manufactured and disseminated” a conspiracy theory related to the company’s voting machines.

“Dominion’s founder and employees have been harassed and received death threats, and Dominion has suffered unprecedented and irreparable harm,” the lawsuit states.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1692  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Jan 25, 2021 6:20 pm

Nothing to worry for Rudy, I‘m sure he knows some good lawyers.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1693  Postby Alan C » Jan 25, 2021 9:54 pm

Rand Paul continues to demonstrate the consequences of his neighbour not punching him out. I wonder if he gets lobbied to primary Paul.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1694  Postby The_Piper » Jan 26, 2021 12:46 am

Alan C wrote:Rand Paul continues to demonstrate the consequences of his neighbour not punching him out. I wonder if he gets lobbied to primary Paul.

You read my mind :lol: Whenever I see him I think about his neighbor whomping him, and hope he does it again.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders is running for Arkansas governor. :point: Imagine her being in charge of something? A state? It's Arkansas, but still. :tongue:
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Re: Republican Watch

#1695  Postby Calilasseia » Jan 26, 2021 8:21 pm

Meanwhile, remember Kellyanne Conway? And her contribution to the Trump comedie noire?

Well, she's now gone full "no wire hangers".

Among several sources reporting this, is this news agency from Philadelphia.

Yes, that's right, Kellyanne is accused of having revenge porned her own daughter for failing to drink the Trump Kool-Aid, and voicing support for BLM.

I harboured for a long time, suspicion that serious clinical psychiatric issues were lurking behind the scenes with the various ghouls that boarded the Trump train, but this has gone beyond florid wingnuttery. This has entered the realm of full-bore criminal insanity.

Just. Fucking. Wow.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1696  Postby The_Metatron » Jan 26, 2021 9:52 pm

I think the word to describe her is: republicunt

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Re: Republican Watch

#1697  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Jan 26, 2021 11:28 pm

Spearthrower wrote:It's one of those: ok, so...? points though, isn't it? Agreed, but what are we supposed to do? What is anyone supposed to do? News outlets have a constitutional freedom to lie - even if lying were made punishable somehow, it would be hard even to establish that it is a lie rather than an honestly believed falsehood - and if 'we' can take away 'their' right to say things that are wrong, what's to stop 'them' deciding that the things 'we' believe are false/lies when 'they' are in power?


Open them up to severe civil liability.

All these media companies that did nothing to try an quell these conspiracy theories and lies should be liable for the deaths and financial losses they have caused. Especially the ones that promoted them.

They should be sued into ruination so that they can no longer do damage to society and be an example to others that might want to do the same.

Litigate the shit out of them.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1698  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Jan 26, 2021 11:33 pm

This needs to be done 400,000 times over for what Fox news did with the pandemic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... cy-theory/
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Re: Republican Watch

#1699  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 27, 2021 6:27 am

Paywalled - what's the main story there?
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Re: Republican Watch

#1700  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Jan 27, 2021 7:17 am

Spearthrower wrote:Paywalled - what's the main story there?

I‘m guessing:
something about 400k Covid-19 deaths and shouting „there is no fire!“ in a crowded, burning, theater.
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