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Re: Republican Watch

#1961  Postby Seabass » Jul 13, 2021 9:01 pm

Remember, both Hitler and Mussolini failed their first coup attempts.


Trump makes Ashli Babbitt, killed in the Capitol riot, into a martyr. Why that's so dangerous.

When Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt, 35, was shot dead by police while trying to force her way through a barricaded door protecting members of the House of Representatives from a mob of rioters inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, she was energized in part by then-President Donald Trump's big lie that Democrats were hard at work stealing the White House from its rightful Republican owners.

Far from dampening support for the big lie, Babbitt's death is being amplified by Trump loyalists into a powerful rallying symbol for far-right anti-government extremists the FBI calls terrorists, who now find aid and comfort within a Trumpified GOP.

Babbitt's canonization as a right-wing martyr is a dangerous development for a Republican Party with members increasingly comfortable pressing for and defending political violence. Trump himself seems to want to use outrage over Babbitt's death as a blast furnace to heat up his 2024 political comeback — but cheerleading extremism is more likely to send the country up in smoke.

"Who was the person who shot an innocent, wonderful, incredible woman?" Trump asked Fox Business anchor Maria Bartiromo on Sunday, before interrupting himself to offer an answer: "I will tell you, they know who shot Ashley Babbitt. They're protecting that person. I've heard also that it was the head of security for a certain high official — a Democrat."

Trump's rumors have been firmly rejected by law enforcement, according to reporting by NBC News. A senior law enforcement official briefed on the matter said the officer involved was not a member of a security detail provided to a specific member of Congress.

Trump's speculation is also refuted by the video evidence freely available to the public, which clearly shows that Babbitt was not "innocent." She was shot while trying to force entry into a restricted area and disregarding multiple police orders to stop. We also know Babbitt arrived at the Capitol fired up by Trump's conspiracy theories, which she spelled out on her social media profiles alongside threats to Democratic elected officials, such as the vice president-elect, Kamala Harris, and Rep. Maxine Waters of California.

In any case, it is doubtful that anyone in the GOP is actually interested in uncovering the truth about what happened on Jan. 6. Back in May, Republicans loudly and proudly refused to support a bipartisan investigation into the riot. Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona went so far as to accuse the FBI of secretly having organized the attack itself — a conspiracy theory amplified by his GOP colleagues Louie Gohmert of Texas, Andy Biggs of Arizona and Matt Gaetz of Florida.

But the danger is greater than the now-typical muddying of the waters about what really happened during a day that threatened U.S. democracy. It represents a new tactic to further the spread of propaganda and distortion that courts — rather than denounces — the most dangerous elements of American society. The open embrace of the Jan. 6 rioters as "peaceful patriots" by parts of the GOP signals a grim reality: Republicans simply cannot afford to lose the votes of far-right domestic terrorists.

Under Trump, the GOP party line drifted so far to the right that extremists like Babbitt, the more than 500 radicals arrested and accused of invading the Capitol and their defenders now represent a major constituency in one of America's two national parties. In May, a Quinnipiac University poll found that 66 percent of self-identified Republicans believed Joe Biden stole the presidency. It stands to reason that Republicans will do whatever is necessary to make sure those extremists are in voting booths instead of jail cells next year.

That desperation is walking Republican leaders down a dark path made infamous by the Nazi propaganda machine. I am aware that comparing one's political rivals to the definitional party of hatred and violent fascism is a serious charge, one none of us should make lightly. Unfortunately for the GOP and for our nation, in this case the brown shirt fits with frightening ease.

As Matthew Rozsa wrote in Salon this week, Trump's elevation of Babbitt to the status of MAGA martyr bears a shocking resemblance to the story of Horst Wessel, a Nazi brownshirt in the Sturmabteilung ("Assault Division"), or S.A., which comprised Hitler's paramilitary terrorism force. Hitler seized on Wessel's death in 1930 as a propaganda gold mine, quickly elevating Wessel into a fascist folk hero.

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Re: Republican Watch

#1962  Postby Spearthrower » Jul 13, 2021 10:42 pm

If Trump keeps finding a way to get his voice out, then people need to start playing his game and calling him out publicly, roast the lying fucker, rather than just writing op-eds read only by people who already know he's a corrupt fuck.
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#1963  Postby OlivierK » Jul 13, 2021 11:20 pm

Lionizing violent fascist antisocial fucks is not new with Babbitt - these same loons have been doing the same with Rittenhouse for about a year now.
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#1964  Postby chango369 » Jul 18, 2021 5:46 am

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Re: Republican Watch

#1965  Postby Seabass » Jul 18, 2021 6:37 pm


Tennessee abandons vaccine outreach to minors — not just for COVID-19

The Tennessee Department of Health will halt all adolescent vaccine outreach – not just for coronavirus, but all diseases – amid pressure from Republican state lawmakers, according to an internal report and agency emails obtained by the Tennessean. If the health department must issue any information about vaccines, staff are instructed to strip the agency logo off the documents.

The health department will also stop all COVID-19 vaccine events on school property, despite holding at least one such event this month. The decisions to end vaccine outreach and school events come directly from Health Commissioner Dr. Lisa Piercey, the internal report states.

Additionally, the health department will take steps to ensure it no longer sends postcards or other notices reminding teenagers to get their second dose of the coronavirus vaccines. Postcards will still be sent to adults, but teens will be excluded from the mailing list so the postcards are not “potentially interpreted as solicitation to minors,” the report states.

These changes to Tennessee’s vaccination strategy, detailed in an COVID-19 report distributed to health department staff on Friday, then reiterated in a mass email on Monday, illustrate how the state government continues to dial back efforts to vaccinate minors against coronavirus. This state's approach to vaccinations will not only lessen efforts to inoculate young people against coronavirus, it could also hamper the capacity to vaccinate adults and protect children from other infectious diseases.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2021/07/13/tennessee-halts-all-vaccine-outreach-minors-not-just-covid-19/7928701002/
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Re: Republican Watch

#1966  Postby Alan C » Jul 19, 2021 12:29 am

Bipartisanship in the US looks more and more like fantasyland with each passing week. If Dems don't make full use of their majority now [I.e. voting rights], they'll never get one again for a long time [if ever] despite theoretical demographic superiority.
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#1967  Postby The_Piper » Jul 19, 2021 2:41 am

They're crazy to think/say that bipartisan support is necessary. It's a pipe dream right now. Zero republicans voted for the last stimulus bill, even though Trump was calling for what, $1200 checks for every American? But weeks later it went 0 for 50 with them. It doesn't matter what bill is on the table apparently, it's just going to be to obstruct progress for political gain, even at the expense of their own voters. Republican voters are getting owned and taken for suckers.
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#1968  Postby The_Piper » Jul 19, 2021 2:42 am

This video is surreal. (even though I didn't see ant meltdown)
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#1969  Postby Animavore » Jul 19, 2021 4:20 pm

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Re: Republican Watch

#1970  Postby arugula2 » Jul 22, 2021 5:02 pm

^ I doubt anti-vax MAGA ppl want to "give Trump credit" for vaccine rollouts. I've heard only a handful of traditional (non-MAGA) Repub mouthpieces inject it into the convo in earnest. The MAGA version is generally a sneering at hypocrisy or selectivity in libs, which is true, because politics breaks ppl's brains & integrity. The sneer IOW isn't earnest, but the guy in the first panel is earnest. I'm sure ppl like this exist - it's just not representative, so the joke construction only works within the lib mental bubble, imo.
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#1971  Postby arugula2 » Jul 22, 2021 5:47 pm

The Gretchen Whitmer "kidnapping" story got mentioned in several threads, but the mention in this thread seems to be the most direct (page 75).

Details about the role of federal agents, in the Buzzfeed story from a couple days ago, will only surprise ppl who don't have a clue how law enforcement works in this country:

A broad threat is identified; some lawyers in the Executive & various law enforcement orgs petition for funding; Congress sequesters funding; the money must be spent. In smaller PDs, that means some fancy equipment and multiplying of random encounters with civilians, leading to avoidable torture & murder, often of brown people.

In federal agencies, it also means justifying a budget of $billions by creating, planning, and equipping major conspiracy plots. The FBI cut its teeth infiltrating black & socialist groups in the middle 50 years of the 20th century - back then conspiracy to commit violent crimes wasn't an essential tactic (though it was used), since being black or being socialist was criminal enough. Ppl's ideas about civil liberties softened. Then 9-11 bloated those budgets again, and serendipitously ppl's ideas about civil liberties hardened, and American Muslims were recruited, groomed, and equipped by feds justifying an expense account. Today it's white supremacists and gun nuts - often but not always the same thing - and hackers.

I haven't read the article, only skimmed it. It's a waste of time. Anyone tracking the tortuous Wikipedia article on the topic back in the fall when the story was evolving, would've quickly pieced together what happened (Wayback Machine).
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Re: Republican Watch

#1972  Postby Seabass » Jul 22, 2021 10:24 pm

The absolute worst of the worst. To vote against this is a level of vile malignancy and callousness that I cannot wrap my head around.

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#1973  Postby The_Piper » Jul 22, 2021 11:21 pm

The Republicans "support the troops" stance has been shown to be a complete fiction, over and over. Support the troops by taking in people who actually risked their lives to support our troops when they all were in harms way. This isn't a hard concept to grasp. These are 16 anti-American scum bags.
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#1974  Postby arugula2 » Jul 23, 2021 1:59 am

Hardly. Other than Barbara Lee, the lone vote against perpetual mass murder in 2001, they're all anti-American 'scum' on this issue. Plus, the aim was never to clear out AQ or contain the TB - there were smarter ways of attempting those. What we got was a successful 20-year weapons graft, and a failed attempt at a stronghold between China and Iran. What will follow is a shadow war that will kill twice as many people (via American-paid mercenary armies & drones, and a much stronger TB) but will stay out of the headlines. And almost all of these 400+ ‘scum’ will continue to fund it.

Also, 16 is an interesting number... that's the number of 'scum' Senate Dems who voted down the Afghanistan withdrawal amendment that might've been part of the Defense budget last year.

It's a moot point anyway (Twitter sucks for this kind of information). The bill was to expedite the visa approval process. It doesn't matter if it had been 407-16 against... whoever Biden wants to lift out will get lifted out (Operation Allies Refuge). Those who have to wait for approval, will wait in allied countries. Many will hopefully opt to stay there if they find a good setup - there's free health care in most of them. And several thousand will be housed in bases here while they wait.

Had it been 16 dissenters insisting on the current (slower) visa process for security checks & COVID, I bet some other rando Tweeter could make that sound awesome and worthy of praise. We're all doomed.

Edit: forgot - the second reason it’s moot: votes are coordinated. The 16 ppl who voted ‘no’ had sympathies across the floor, bc that kind of coordination is how Congress functions. They take turns appeasing some fraction of the ugly masses. That’s why the ‘Squad’ drew straws to make sure the $2bn funding increase to police squeaked by in May, deciding ahead of time how many among them would vote “no”. It’s hilarious so many ppl play along with this kabuki. The ideal audience.
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#1975  Postby Seabass » Jul 26, 2021 9:40 pm


I’m a Parkland Shooting Survivor. QAnon Convinced My Dad It Was All a Hoax.

Bill’s final semester at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, was already difficult enough.

He was part of the final graduating class of survivors of the 2018 shooting, and they all had just marked the third anniversary of the day 17 people were killed, nine of whom were Bill’s classmates.

But Bill also had to deal with his father’s daily accusations that the shooting was a hoax and that the shooter, Bill, and all his classmates were paid pawns in a grand conspiracy orchestrated by some shadowy force.

Bill had worked hard to get over his survivor’s guilt after the shooting, but for the past five months, his own father has been triggering it all over again.

“He'll say stuff like this straight to my face whenever he's drinking: ‘You're a real piece of work to be able to sit here and act like nothing ever happened if it wasn't a hoax. Shame on you for being part of it and putting your family through it too,” Bill said in an anonymous post on Reddit last week.’

Bill first posted his story on QAnon Casualties, a Reddit thread dedicated to helping family members and friends of QAnon believers.

VICE News spoke to the poster and confirmed the author’s claims about being a survivor of the school shooting. Bill is not the student’s real name as they only spoke to VICE News on the condition of anonymity, citing concerns about attacks from members of QAnon forums if his identity was revealed.

As is true for many who fell down the QAnon rabbit hole in recent years, Bill’s dad’s descent coincided with the pandemic.

“It started a couple months into the pandemic with the whole anti-lockdown protests,” Bill said. “His feelings were so strong it turned into facts for him. So if he didn't like having to wear masks it wouldn't matter what doctors or scientists said. Anything that contradicted his feelings was wrong. So he turned to the internet to find like-minded people which led him to QAnon.”

But until January, that was as far as it went. Then Bill’s father saw a video of Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene harassing Parkland survivor David Hogg in 2018, while he was visiting Washington to advocate for stricter gun control. Greene has repeatedly voiced support for QAnon and claimed the Parkland shooting was a hoax.

“He is a coward,” Greene told her followers.

Ever since then, Bill’s father has become convinced the shooting his son survived was a so-called “false flag” event and that the shooter was “​​a radical commie actor.”

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#1976  Postby Alan C » Jul 26, 2021 10:52 pm

:nono:

I don't have words for that.

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#1977  Postby Spearthrower » Jul 27, 2021 1:44 am

“It started a couple months into the pandemic with the whole anti-lockdown protests,” Bill said. “His feelings were so strong it turned into facts for him. So if he didn't like having to wear masks it wouldn't matter what doctors or scientists said. Anything that contradicted his feelings was wrong. So he turned to the internet to find like-minded people which led him to QAnon.”


Pretty much sums it all up: the descent into post-truthism.
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#1978  Postby The_Piper » Jul 27, 2021 1:49 am

Here's her cackling when asked if she bears any responsibility for keeping people in Georgia safe -
The reporter phrased it like that because Greene had said that only obese people and people over the age of 65 are in danger from covid.

I take that as a no.
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Re: Republican Watch

#1979  Postby Seabass » Jul 27, 2021 5:38 am

:rofl:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/matt-gaetzs-future-sister-in-law-says-hes-a-gaslighting-creep



Matt Gaetz’s Future Sister-in-Law Says He’s a Gaslighting ‘Creep’

Rep. Matt Gaetz’s future sister-in-law appears to have had more than enough with the Florida congressman, posting three TikTok videos in the last two days slamming him as “weird and creepy” and “a literal pedophile.”

Roxanne Luckey—the sister of Gaetz’s fiancée, Ginger Luckey—was sharply critical of the congressman and his treatment of young women, saying she “unfortunately was not surprised” to have learned Gaetz was under federal investigation for sex crimes.

In one video Monday night, Roxanne Luckey told a story about Gaetz pressuring an older man to court her when she was 19. Roxanne Luckey called the move “weird and creepy”—and she claims Gaetz yelled at her and her mother and went “full lawyer” when she confronted him.

“I saw the character and type of person he is, and when everything came out about him, I honestly, unfortunately, was not surprised,” Luckey said in one video.

“As someone who has personally experienced a ton of creepy old politician men hitting on me when I was underage, and experiencing sexual assault at that age by people of power, it’s very disheartening and I have zero tolerance of people like [Gaetz],” said Roxanne, who in 2020 worked briefly as a White House intern. She added that she is “tired of them getting away with this type of stuff.”


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#1980  Postby Seabass » Jul 27, 2021 9:26 pm

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