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Re: Republican Watch

#2021  Postby Seabass » Sep 19, 2021 4:05 am

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Re: Republican Watch

#2022  Postby Alan C » Sep 19, 2021 7:28 am

No eye or ear protection and not shot from a solid/stable position so I've read.
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#2023  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Sep 19, 2021 7:46 am

Alan C wrote:No eye or ear protection and not shot from a solid/stable position so I've read.

then she‘s got some awfully dirty ears
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Re: Republican Watch

#2024  Postby Tortured_Genius » Sep 19, 2021 10:18 am

Seabass wrote:
Win Marjorie Taylor Greene's 50 Cal Rifle!

This is the same type of gun that TRIGGERS the Fake News Media and Democrats all across the country.

And it’s the same type of gun the hate-America gun-grabbers in DC would love to BAN if they ever get the votes.



I tried to understand the mindset that causes someone to write something like that, then realised that in the "UK" we do have a direct parallel.

The thought processes underpinning sectarianism in Northern Ireland and Scotland are exactly the same (and equally incomprehensible to anyone not indoctrinated into it from birth). That particular historical thread doesn't exactly have a happy history.

These fuckwits are actively trying to start a civil war.
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Re: Republican Watch

#2025  Postby Seabass » Sep 19, 2021 6:23 pm

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#2026  Postby The_Piper » Sep 19, 2021 6:54 pm

That was pretty funny. What a psychopath. :crazy: :lol:
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Re: Republican Watch

#2027  Postby Spearthrower » Sep 19, 2021 7:03 pm

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He doesn't conform to our views.... burn him!
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Re: Republican Watch

#2028  Postby Alan C » Sep 24, 2021 1:04 am

Hmm. A thought just come to mind about the filibuster and that is this; The justification that some have expressed in keeping it is that it can be a shield in the event that Dems are once again in the Senate minority. I thought it might be worth revisiting the history of the twice-impeached fascist's term and noting any particular times the Dems used the filibuster to successfully block anything horrible from happening.
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#2029  Postby Tortured_Genius » Sep 24, 2021 2:16 am

Alan C wrote:Hmm. A thought just come to mind about the filibuster and that is this; The justification that some have expressed in keeping it is that it can be a shield in the event that Dems are once again in the Senate minority. I thought it might be worth revisiting the history of the twice-impeached fascist's term and noting any particular times the Dems used the filibuster to successfully block anything horrible from happening.


The problem is that the Repugs do horrible things at state level (e.g. Texas abortion laws, gerrymandering and voter suppression) and "rule" at federal level by omission. So the only legislation they push for at federal level is tax cuts and cutting federal government, which bypasses the filibuster because it's part of the budget: hence Trumps tax cuts that added $7.8 trillion to the US deficit to line the pockets of millionaires and billionaires. Cuts to the CDC during a pandemic and no investment in infrastructure or social care didn't require senate validation to not do something.
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Re: Republican Watch

#2030  Postby Seabass » Sep 24, 2021 5:12 am

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Re: Republican Watch

#2031  Postby Seabass » Sep 24, 2021 5:21 am

Here's Marjorie Taylor Greene showing internet memes in Congress. People voted for this woman. Thousands of them.


video: https://twitter.com/RightWingCope/status/1441084505482137606

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Re: Republican Watch

#2032  Postby NamelessFaceless » Sep 24, 2021 1:34 pm

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Damn. Now I really want to know what the guy was going to say.
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Re: Republican Watch

#2033  Postby chango369 » Sep 25, 2021 4:05 am

The United States is heading into its greatest political and constitutional crisis since the Civil War, with a reasonable chance over the next three to four years of incidents of mass violence, a breakdown of federal authority, and the division of the country into warring red and blue enclaves. The warning signs may be obscured by the distractions of politics, the pandemic, the economy and global crises, and by wishful thinking and denial. But about these things there should be no doubt:

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Opinion: Our constitutional crisis is already here
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Re: Republican Watch

#2034  Postby Tortured_Genius » Sep 25, 2021 6:34 pm

From the normally restrained and upbeat Heather Cox Richardson:

On Monday, we learned that after last year’s election, John Eastman, a well-connected lawyer advising former president Donald Trump, outlined a six-point plan to overturn the outcome of the election and install Trump as America’s leader. They planned to cut the voters’ actual choice, Democrat Joe Biden, out of power: as Trump advisor Steve Bannon put it, they planned to “kill the Biden presidency in the crib.” This appears to have been the plan that Trump and his loyalists tried to execute on January 6.

That is, we now have written proof of an attempt to destroy our democracy and replace it with an autocracy.

This was not some crazy plot of some obscure dude in a shack in the mountains; this was a plan of the president of the United States of America, and it came perilously close to succeeding. The president of the United States tried to overturn the results of an election—the centerpiece of our democracy—and install himself into power illegitimately.

If this is not a hair-on-fire, screaming emergency, what is?


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Scariest thing I think I've seen her write in the last couple of years - and it echoes the piece chango369 referenced above.

My first thought on reading that CPAC is to be held in Hungary was "well if you are going to plot treason, then doing it on foreign soil is the way to go" (to be fair, they have held it in other countries before).
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Re: Republican Watch

#2035  Postby Spearthrower » Sep 25, 2021 8:02 pm

Unless charges are brought and the judicial apparatus of the country start working, then it may as well not have happened: business as usual. I wonder if it's a inherent component weakness of democracy that it's nearly impossible to stop authoritarian fascism within the rules and norms of the system that the authoritarian fascists are exploiting to undermine and replace.
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Re: Republican Watch

#2036  Postby Tortured_Genius » Sep 26, 2021 8:04 am

Spearthrower wrote:Unless charges are brought and the judicial apparatus of the country start working, then it may as well not have happened: business as usual. I wonder if it's a inherent component weakness of democracy that it's nearly impossible to stop authoritarian fascism within the rules and norms of the system that the authoritarian fascists are exploiting to undermine and replace.


I don't think it's fundamental to democracy as a concept, but flaws in the way it's implemented do make it vulnerable.

In the blatant case of the USA among the most obvious flaws are:

1.) A politicised judiciary
2.) A Politically affiliated electoral apparatus
3.) A first past the post electoral system (which effectively means, at best, a 2 party state)
4.) A wildly inequitable election process for president and senate
5.) A quasi-religious reverence for the original constitution (constitutions are great for laying down principles, not so great for detailed mechanics in a world where women and black people are no longer property).
Etc. Etc. (there are more than a few books worth here!)

I'm only singling out the US system here because of the thread and that the democratic system has so obviously hit breaking point. My own country's entrenched aristocracy and theological state is hardly equitable, but is at least somewhat resistant to fascism even when the monarch is a fan (I'm referring to Edward VIII, "the traitor king", here).

Overall I think any democracy has to be a work in progress as the zeitgeist changes through technology and social change. It needs to have solid checks and balances to ensure good governance whilst at the same time allowing evolution of the system.

My own feeling is that the USA's current political woes are a result of ossification around a strict reading of "holy writ" that even the most cursory reading shows was never intended as anything other than a set of principles around which the political system can evolve. IMHO for this reason the current crop of "originalists" in the Supreme Court and Senate are a leading symptom of this malaise.
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Re: Republican Watch

#2037  Postby Seabass » Sep 28, 2021 6:11 pm

From the party of individual freedom:

Women can say no to sex if Roe falls, says architect of Texas abortion ban

The legal architect of the Texas abortion ban has argued in a supreme court brief that overturning Roe v Wade, the landmark decision which guarantees a right to abortion in the US, could cause women to practice abstinence from sexual intercourse as a way to “control their reproductive lives”.

Former Texas solicitor general Jonathan Mitchell, who played a pivotal role in designing the legal framework of the state’s near-total abortion ban, also argued on behalf of anti-abortion group Texas Right to Life that women would still be able to terminate pregnancies if Roe was overturned by traveling to “wealthy pro-abortion” states like California and New York with the help of “taxpayer subsidies”.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/17/texas-abortion-ban-jonathan-mitchell-supreme-court-brief


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Re: Republican Watch

#2038  Postby Spearthrower » Sep 28, 2021 6:48 pm

How about women deny men sex until they stop trying to control their reproductive processes? This was a parody from ancient fucking Greece, yet these morons are still in need of Aristophanes' lesson. Ameritaliban.
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Re: Republican Watch

#2039  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Sep 28, 2021 6:48 pm

Seabass wrote:We've got friggin' robots on Mars, but we still have to deal with this shit. Fucking primitive savages.

shoot those idiots to Mars and everyone is happy.
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Re: Republican Watch

#2040  Postby Alan C » Sep 29, 2021 10:28 pm

I happened to watch a short collage of Cult45 vets ranting and raving about 'patriotism' and upholding their oaths [to foment another insurrection?!]. What I noticed was every one of them had a beard, y'all quaida indeed.
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