Hermit wrote:Oh noes. Mike_L indulged in men

Mike_L wrote:

Hermit wrote:Oh noes. Mike_L indulged in men

No, I didn't! The Putin-Carlson thing was just a joke!




(Kidding)

Mike_L wrote:So race just suddenly becomes real when you want to accuse someone (like Tucker) of racism? You're like those people who insist that demographic replacement is just a conspiracy theory... right up until the moment they start celebrating demographic replacement...

Mike_L wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

Mike_L wrote:Some clarification is still needed, though: are all nationalists "human excrement" to you, or just the white nationalists?

Nationalists are chasing fictions to begin with.
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Yes, but are open borders as good as no borders?

Spearthrower wrote:

Mike_L wrote:Nevertheless, my Tucker Carlson poster is right next to my Vladimir Putin poster on my bedroom ceiling.

A racist demagogue and a murderous autocrat as poster boys.

And you're proud of this.

Mike_L wrote:
As the Science Daily article shows, race differences are perceived even by infants.
It takes a whole lot of liberal brainwashing to convince oneself otherwise.

Spearthrower wrote:

Mike_L wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:As for your 'question' (good faith? HA!) I think it's pretty safe to say I consider all forms of nationalism to be absurd.

Why? Is nationalism not simply the inevitable result of human differences... in history, in culture, in religions, in beliefs, in values, etc.

That's a bit like saying that oppression of women is the inevitable result of physical differences between men and women.

Of course, the fact that historically women were oppressed doesn't mean that we're obliged to continue doing that ad nauseam. The fact that some men still want to oppress women doesn't mean that we should just accept it and continue on. That something has happened or does happen isn't justification for its occurrence. Remember reason?

And of course, it's not in the slightest bit inevitable anyway. Plenty of societies both present and historical managed perfectly well to include diverse peoples with different traditions - we even have a word for it with respect to such societies: "tolerance".

If it were 'inevitable' then why don't I share this view? Why don't others? Why do so many people not share this view? The only logical answer is...

BLAH BLAH BLAH

I've spent the majority of my adult life living in other countries...

Utter bollocks and save the raving conspiracy claptrap of the spooky globalists for a more appropriate venue. Keep pulling this ad hominem bullshit and I'll start repeatedly implying you're a fucking Nazi and see how you squeal then. And you will squeal Mike_L.

...once they leave the little cage they've manufactured for themselves, they'd find the wider world is not a scary place full of incomprehensible aliens, but really just other people with a preponderance of shared values.

...a post-graduate science degree in Human Evolution with a solid foundation in genetics and more than a decade of teaching the subject...

Included in How Evolution Shapes Our Lives: Essays on Biology and Society, Princeton University Press, 2016

I'm not looking at YT videos for you Mike_L.

I wish your parents had just introduced you to porn - it would have been far less damaging to your long-term well-being.

So which is it? Am I the self-hating white chap full of guilt? Do I seem to be espousing any self-hate or guilt here Mikey? Or am I the brown boy with an equal propensity for foolish belief in crackpot ideas as you?

Spearthrower wrote:There's a place where you can stick your kidding.

Hermit wrote:
This

Mike_L wrote:So race just suddenly becomes real when you want to accuse someone (like Tucker) of racism? You're like those people who insist that demographic replacement is just a conspiracy theory... right up until the moment they start celebrating demographic replacement...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXTgFZxSxGE

was mendacious quote mining, though, right?

As you are completely unapologetic about it you might just be entitled to some form of repercussion coming from a moderator.

Mike_L wrote:
No, it absolutely isn't quote-mining. The edited version is not at odds with (or a misrepresentation of) the full video. (See above)

Spearthrower wrote:Included in How Evolution Shapes Our Lives: Essays on Biology and Society, Princeton University Press, 2016

https://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/curr ... pleton.pdf

Conclusions

The genetic data are consistently and strongly informative about human races. Humans show only modest levels of differentiation among populations when compared to other large-bodied mammals, and this level of differentiation is well below the usual threshold used to identify sub-species (races) in nonhuman species. Hence, human races do not exist under the traditional concept of a subspecies as being a geographically circumscribed population showing sharp genetic differentiation. A more modem definition of race is that of a distinct evolutionary lineage within a species. The genetic evidence strongly rejects the existence of distinct evolutionary lineages within humans. The widespread representation of human "races" as branches on an intraspecific population tree is genetically indefensible and biologically misleading, even when the ancestral node is presented as being at 100,000 years ago.

Attempts to salvage the idea of human "races" as evolutionary lineages by invoking greater racial purity in the past followed by admixture events are unsuccessful and falsified by multilocus comparisons of geographical concordance and by haplotype analyses. Instead, all of the genetic evidence shows that there never was a split or separation of the "races'" or between Africans and Eurasians. Recent human evolution has been characterized by both population range expansions (with perhaps some local replacements but no global replacement within the last 100,000 years) and recurrent genetic interchange. The 100,000 years ago "divergence time" between Eurasians and Africans that is commonly found in the recent literature is really only an "effective divergence time" in sensu Nei and Roychoudhury (1974, 1982). Since no split occurred between Africans and Eurasians, it is meaningless to assign a date to an "event" that never happened. Instead,the effective divergence time measures the amount of restricted gene flow among the populations (Slatkin 1991). Because of the extensive evidence for genetic interchange through population movements and recurrent gene flow going back at least hundreds of thousands of years ago, there is only one evolutionary lineage of humanity and there are no subspecies or races under either the traditional or phylogenetic definitions. Human evolution and population structure have been and are characterized by many locally differentiated populations coexisting at any given time, but with sufficient genetic contact to make all of humanity a single lineage sharing a common, long-term evolutionary fate.

A whole lot of liberal brainwashing on my part? Or a complete fucking ignorance of genetics coupled with a network of radicalizing far-right racists on your part Mike_L?

I wonder what this website's membership has a tendency to conceive of as more credible? The cocky, self-serving declarations of an ideologue apparently ignorant of the entire field of Biology, or one of the world's leading geneticists exploring the topic in detail with respect to the available empirical evidence?

There is little evidence that radicalization is primarily driven by psychopathology (Misiak et al., 2019; Post, 2015; Webber and Kruglanski, 2017). Rather, radicalization appears to be a process in which individuals are destabilized by various environmental factors, exposed to extremist ideology, and subsequently reinforced by members of their community (Becker, 2019; Jasko et al., 2017; Jensen et al., 2018; Mills et al., 2019; Webber and Kruglanski, 2017). Even “lone wolves”, or solo actors, often interact with extremist communities online (Holt et al., 2019; Kaplan et al., 2014; Post, 2015). As such, radicalization may spread through a social contagion process, in which extremist ideologies behave like complex contagions that require multiple exposures for adoption

Spearthrower wrote:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-020-00546-3

There is little evidence that radicalization is primarily driven by psychopathology (Misiak et al., 2019; Post, 2015; Webber and Kruglanski, 2017). Rather, radicalization appears to be a process in which individuals are destabilized by various environmental factors, exposed to extremist ideology, and subsequently reinforced by members of their community (Becker, 2019; Jasko et al., 2017; Jensen et al., 2018; Mills et al., 2019; Webber and Kruglanski, 2017). Even “lone wolves”, or solo actors, often interact with extremist communities online (Holt et al., 2019; Kaplan et al., 2014; Post, 2015). As such, radicalization may spread through a social contagion process, in which extremist ideologies behave like complex contagions that require multiple exposures for adoption

felltoearth wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Mike_L wrote:Nevertheless, my Tucker Carlson poster is right next to my Vladimir Putin poster on my bedroom ceiling.

A racist demagogue and a murderous autocrat as poster boys.

And you're proud of this.

Mike_L’s MO. When called on something double and triple down until there’s no escape and joke your way out until the next time.

Mike_L wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-020-00546-3

There is little evidence that radicalization is primarily driven by psychopathology (Misiak et al., 2019; Post, 2015; Webber and Kruglanski, 2017). Rather, radicalization appears to be a process in which individuals are destabilized by various environmental factors, exposed to extremist ideology, and subsequently reinforced by members of their community (Becker, 2019; Jasko et al., 2017; Jensen et al., 2018; Mills et al., 2019; Webber and Kruglanski, 2017). Even “lone wolves”, or solo actors, often interact with extremist communities online (Holt et al., 2019; Kaplan et al., 2014; Post, 2015). As such, radicalization may spread through a social contagion process, in which extremist ideologies behave like complex contagions that require multiple exposures for adoption

Yes, but is there a cure for liberalism?

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law

there's always that subtext: white folk must STFU while being disappeared.

Spearthrower wrote:Still not seeing any list of races from Mike_L.

I would suggest it's indoctrination, a kind of cult-like belief system where introspection and critical thinking is not just unwelcome but positively avoided.

I’m a Former Teacher. Here’s How Your Children Are Getting Indoctrinated by Leftist Ideology.

Douglas Blair
Aug 17th, 2020

Your children are being indoctrinated. The education system designed to teach them how to think critically has been weaponized by the radical left to push an anti-American agenda.

As someone who has worked in education for four years, I have seen firsthand how your children are being ensnared by the left and their teachers.

I worked with kids from ages 3 to 13 and saw the brainwashing that exists at all levels of education. The left uses a combination of propaganda and suppression to push kids into the ensnaring grip of socialism and anti-patriotism.

First is the propaganda. Teachers will assign work instilling the idea that the pillars of Western civilization were evil, and their memories deserve to be thrown in the trash.
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But it isn’t just a matter of actively teaching that America and the West are evil. Suppression of “wrongthink” is equally as important to the brainwashing process. The lessons I was allowed to teach also were censored.

I was preparing a lesson on Thanksgiving involving Pilgrims and American Indians, with an activity centered on making paper teepees for arts and crafts. Cue the progressive panic.

Other teachers at the school were incensed that a non-Indian was “appropriating” Native American culture for an activity. Of course, these teachers weren’t Indians either, they just wanted to virtue signal.
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